torsion crossmember removal
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leadfoot
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Re: torsion crossmember removal
Obviously the torsion bars will have to be removed first. It's all down hill from there:
http://www1.autozone.com/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/12/b7/3c/0900823d8012b73c/repairInfoPages.htm
Do yourself a favor and start spraying liquid wrench on the nuts.
Obviously the torsion bars will have to be removed first. It's all down hill from there:
http://www1.autozone.com/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/12/b7/3c/0900823d8012b73c/repairInfoPages.htm
Do yourself a favor and start spraying liquid wrench on the nuts.
Re: torsion crossmember removal
no....
Grimgrak said:
no....
Re: torsion crossmember removal
if you will un bolt the top of the shocks on both sides so the front a arms can drop a lil farther, raise the front up with both front tires hanging,take the torsion bar tension bolts all the way out... there should not be any tension on the bars.
then you can proceed with necessary adjustments/removal....the go backwards to re-install ....man this situation your in does suck... i really hate it for you. i hope this helps.
don't sell.. one "just one" good boost launch and you'll forget all this ever happened. :tup:
gjp said:
if you will un bolt the top of the shocks on both sides so the front a arms can drop a lil farther, raise the front up with both front tires hanging,take the torsion bar tension bolts all the way out... there should not be any tension on the bars.
then you can proceed with necessary adjustments/removal....the go backwards to re-install ....man this situation your in does suck... i really hate it for you. i hope this helps.
don't sell.. one "just one" good boost launch and you'll forget all this ever happened. :tup:
Black Knight
I Glow Therefore I am
Re: torsion crossmember removal
What's up? The TC still leaking?
What's up? The TC still leaking?
Re: torsion crossmember removal
I'm a hack mechanic but in my experience I couldn't imagine trying to mess with the torsion bars without permanently removing them and putting on the coilovers. For the PITA that it's gonna be u may as well do the coilovers. To get the tool for the torsion bars I had to find a buddy at a dealership because it's a gm specific tool. I just got fed up and used a angle grinder to cut the damn bars off.
I'm a hack mechanic but in my experience I couldn't imagine trying to mess with the torsion bars without permanently removing them and putting on the coilovers. For the PITA that it's gonna be u may as well do the coilovers. To get the tool for the torsion bars I had to find a buddy at a dealership because it's a gm specific tool. I just got fed up and used a angle grinder to cut the damn bars off.
gjp
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Re: torsion crossmember removal
Roy the output shaft was too long and was spliting the TC apart. The truck would not roll. Had to remove the 3rd crossmember and TC. Now I have to cut the shaft down.
Black Knight said:
Roy the output shaft was too long and was spliting the TC apart. The truck would not roll. Had to remove the 3rd crossmember and TC. Now I have to cut the shaft down.
X2. Give me the stuff and I can build a house. from concrete to tile roof. I built my first house. A few of you have seen it. I can build anything. Thats my zone. Cars, I am using my common sense and your help.
leadfoot
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Re: torsion crossmember removal
Tools? we don't need no stinkin' tools...
Back the adjusting nut all the way out of the key to reduce the torque, then take a C-clamp and use it to compress the key. Raising front wheels may help (relieve suspension)
Some bars pop out easily while others have dirt and muck filth accumulated and are a whore to get out. There is a small hole on the back of the support which you can take a punch and try to wack it out with a hammer. Kind of heard to visualize in an E-mail.
I can possibly take pics if you need since I have an open frame (rolling chassis) at the time.
gjp said:
Tools? we don't need no stinkin' tools...
Back the adjusting nut all the way out of the key to reduce the torque, then take a C-clamp and use it to compress the key. Raising front wheels may help (relieve suspension)
Some bars pop out easily while others have dirt and muck filth accumulated and are a whore to get out. There is a small hole on the back of the support which you can take a punch and try to wack it out with a hammer. Kind of heard to visualize in an E-mail.
I can possibly take pics if you need since I have an open frame (rolling chassis) at the time.
Black Knight
I Glow Therefore I am
Re: torsion crossmember removal
2wd trucks don't have it, and I haven't heard of anyone having any adverse affects yet from removing it :tup:
leadfoot said:
2wd trucks don't have it, and I haven't heard of anyone having any adverse affects yet from removing it :tup:
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Quickstop [UK]
Combating adversyty.
Re: torsion crossmember removal
Can you take the torsion bars out and leave them before you install a coilover setup?
I want to save the body shop guys the effort of putting the bars in after the truck gets put back together, but I have to wait for the coilovers....
Thanks
Can you take the torsion bars out and leave them before you install a coilover setup?
I want to save the body shop guys the effort of putting the bars in after the truck gets put back together, but I have to wait for the coilovers....
Thanks
mattw
Active member
Re: torsion crossmember removal
The torsion bar cross-member is 2 pieces. The part that the torsion bar keys actually go into is suspended by two rubber mounts on either side.. If you are going with coil-overs remove this and the mount.
Do not remove the 2nd part that is structural and riveted to the frame. If anything you should be looking at where you can add additional cross-braces when you go to coil-overs as they must increase the twisting action on the frame.
As for the question about not putting the torsion bars back in.. If you don't plan on driving it and you are just rolling it around I don't see any harm in just letting it rest on the bump stops.
-Matt
The torsion bar cross-member is 2 pieces. The part that the torsion bar keys actually go into is suspended by two rubber mounts on either side.. If you are going with coil-overs remove this and the mount.
Do not remove the 2nd part that is structural and riveted to the frame. If anything you should be looking at where you can add additional cross-braces when you go to coil-overs as they must increase the twisting action on the frame.
As for the question about not putting the torsion bars back in.. If you don't plan on driving it and you are just rolling it around I don't see any harm in just letting it rest on the bump stops.
-Matt
Quickstop [UK]
Combating adversyty.
Re: torsion crossmember removal
OK, that's good news. It won't need to rol very far. Just once the paint and powdercoated chassis is done then onto a trailer and then straigh onto a ramp.
This is the first time I have heard of anyone suggesting another brace to stop the frame twisting - it makes sense I guess.
Do you know of anyone that has an extra brace? Seems to to me that the problem would be where to actually fit it!
OK, that's good news. It won't need to rol very far. Just once the paint and powdercoated chassis is done then onto a trailer and then straigh onto a ramp.
This is the first time I have heard of anyone suggesting another brace to stop the frame twisting - it makes sense I guess.
Do you know of anyone that has an extra brace? Seems to to me that the problem would be where to actually fit it!
mattw
Active member
Re: torsion crossmember removal
I don't know of anyone that has actually done it.. I've got coilovers on mine and if I bounce up and down on the front of the truck and watch the shock mounts you can see them move ever so slightly. Some day I want to take the body off of the frame to put a 4-link on the rear, box the entire frame, and add cross braces wherever possible. I know that there is room to beef up the one under the front of the oil pan near the steering linkage. Not sure where else you may be able to add one.
-Matt
Quickstop [UK] said:
I don't know of anyone that has actually done it.. I've got coilovers on mine and if I bounce up and down on the front of the truck and watch the shock mounts you can see them move ever so slightly. Some day I want to take the body off of the frame to put a 4-link on the rear, box the entire frame, and add cross braces wherever possible. I know that there is room to beef up the one under the front of the oil pan near the steering linkage. Not sure where else you may be able to add one.
-Matt