Re: Drag racing 101
What I'm saying is that you have to drive it properly. You gonna drive down the street at 40mph and then shift it into reverse? Why not? Because it's stupid. Shifting a trans into a neutraldrop at 5500 RPM will destroy it. Doing a burnout, letting it hit 2nd gear and then lifting so it busts the sprag. Not smart. It will take it but not over and over. Do that ONE time in your 700, have a trailer nearby. You have to be smart. You can break it if you don't know what your doing. Neutral dropping any trans is stupid. Plain and simple. I can build an 80e that WILL take over 1800HP when driven correctly. The drums I am using in my two current builds have ALREADY been established in 7000+ pound vehicles making over 2000HPWill your 700 do that? Get real. 80e is the route. Driving it "like you stole it" and doing a neutral drop at 5500 RPM has nothing to do with each other. Same old Tooky. How ginger do you think Adam, Jeremy, Jeff, and Frank are being to theirs? Renz was in the passenger seat and I was in the back during Hardman's craziness. A 700 would not have taken that ONE trip the way Mike treated it. He gave rides. The proof is out there. Talk to any reputable trans builder and they WILL tell you the same things as stated above. Please be safe.
Guys, please remember, shifting ANY OD trans 80e,60e,700, anything from a driven gear to neutral WILL make the direct gear driven assembly run almost 3 time engine speed with no load. This is incredibly dangerous. I mean, exploding parts dangerous. This is why YOU MUST RUN A TRANS BLANKET OR SHIELD. It is a fact of racing and why rules are made the way they are.
There is being careful and being safe. Please be both.
The nuetral drop repairs I was referring to was in 700r4's, Tooky. One busted a sprag and the others busted the rear planetary. I have not seen a neutral drop damaged 80e yet, but the mechanics are possible. Revving it in neutral and then engaging "DRIVE" or "OD" will engage the forward clutches making a hell of a boom. It's just not smart.
And if you have too much power it will burn up 2nd gear
Who said that?
Too much power for a 700(where your mindset is at) and too much power for an 80e are not even in the same ballpark.
What normally happens is that 2nd gear will wear before the others do. I have personally spoken with people making well over 1000HP who have made in excess of 1000 runs and the 2nd gear clutches are what wear out first. The fix has been done and is not an issue anymore for those making those HP levels. Of course your post had nothing to do with drag racing.
Tooky said:
What happened to the bold claims of the 4L80 being "indestructible" and "you cant break it even if you try" and how it's the answer to every 700R4 problem? Now it seems like there's a certain way to gingerly drive it to avoid breaking it. And if you have too much power it will burn up 2nd gear?? I thought a junkyard 4L80 with a Transgo shift kit will handle 800HP all day long, according to so many posts I've read.
Don't get me wrong, I'm doing a 4L80 in my truck someday in the future, no doubt about that. Its just disappointing to hear these overzealous claims all along and then find out the TRUTH is that you STILL have to be careful driving it; -- I'm already used to doing that with my 700R4.
All this just makes me be VERY skeptical whenever ANYBODY makes an extraordinary claim, because it ALWAYS seems the truth is so much more disappointing than the original claim. :roll: Know what I mean???
