Slicks
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Black Knight
I Glow Therefore I am
Re: Slicks
Well Don I'm running these Yokohama AVID T4's, they were on the truck when I got it. I've had pretty good luck with them, just so you know.
http://www.yokohamatire.com/TireIntro.asp?TireID=5
Ok slicks, again I've always been a big Toyo fan, but since they don't make our size in a slick anymore you would have to go to a P255/50R-16, which would help more with traction, but is about .4 of a inch taller in total diameter making your truck just a little bit taller geared.
http://www.toyo.com/docs/tires/tires.asp?lpid=18968&name=Proxes RA-1™&category=sport
If you want to stay stock size I went to Tirerack.com and you have about 9 choices in that size that're under the catagory of extreme high performance, no real drag slick designs.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compa...rmance=GT&performance=C&RunFlat=All&x=101&y=2
Some tire info for those who want to know, tires are rated on a scale called the UTQG rating.
UTQG means Uniform Tire Quality Grading, basically a test that tire manufactures have to put their tires through before they go on the street and give people a idea of the tires quality. I can tell you from experience the rating is 99% B.S. but it kind of gives you a idea of where the tire lies. Most tire manufactures build their tires to do good under these tests with little regard for how they perform in real world situations so they get a higher score and people will be more likely to buy them.
The number on there 280, 300, 320 ect. is the tread wear rating and supposed to give you a idea of how long the tire will last. According to their grading scale for every 100 a tire gets that is equal to about 20,000 miles. So in theory a 300 tire is supposed to go 60,000 miles, I highly doubt that will happen with these tires. I've seen tires rated as high as 700, that is 140,000 miles and I never saw a set go farther then 80-90K, but i've also seen tires rated at 400 go 120K. Amazingly those tires went away very quickly we wouldn't want tires lasting too long now would we.
Next is your traction, basically how well the tire grips wet pavement under normal driving circustances. So this wont give you much of a idea for the tires your looking for. AA,A,B,C are the ratings.
Temperature is the last letter and is the tires ability to resist heat. A,B,C are the ratings.
You have sooo many different rubber compounds available also natural and synthetic or combo's of both. Ever wonder why a Michelin tire is so expensive in comparision to other brands. They are made almost entirely of natural rubber which is alot more expensive then synthetic but is alot better. Natural rubber had less friction to it so the tire it's self has less rolling resistance and will last longer. I used to have 2 rubber balls 1 made of natural rubber and 1 made of synthetic and if you rolled them equally the natural rubber ball would roll almost twice as far and roll faster. It also would bounce higher with less force.
Now I'm way off track, I like the BFG G-force sport, it is W rated so it will be cheaper then the G-force KDW which is Y rated and has a lower tread wear rating but both are good. Either of those Goodyear's don't look bad, but I don't have much experience with them. I don't like Kumho tires, IMO they're cheap and with those you get what you pay for, I've used AVON motorcycle tires and seen their pickup tires but don't know about the performance tires, their other tires worked pretty good though.
I found this BFG, but again it's the bigger size
http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?tirebrand=BFGoodrich&tiremodel=g-Force+T/A+Drag+Radial
I know alot of people love the Nitto 555R, but alot of me belive this is because they get so much advertising in the asian market that everyone just buys because thats all they know. From what I understand Toyo used to own Nitto and Nitto was their secondary line up, but you could give them a shot and they're in our stock size.
http://www.wheelsforless.com/search_result.asp?Product_ID=NT555R
I know this probably didn't help and made it worse, but there are alot of manufactures out there now a days so it can be hard and we don't have a SyTy magazine saying hey run these they worked good. You might try hunting around the Camaro and LS1 sights becasue they run the same size on some models. They probably burn theirs off though, but it could get you closer. HTH
Well Don I'm running these Yokohama AVID T4's, they were on the truck when I got it. I've had pretty good luck with them, just so you know.
http://www.yokohamatire.com/TireIntro.asp?TireID=5
Ok slicks, again I've always been a big Toyo fan, but since they don't make our size in a slick anymore you would have to go to a P255/50R-16, which would help more with traction, but is about .4 of a inch taller in total diameter making your truck just a little bit taller geared.
http://www.toyo.com/docs/tires/tires.asp?lpid=18968&name=Proxes RA-1™&category=sport
If you want to stay stock size I went to Tirerack.com and you have about 9 choices in that size that're under the catagory of extreme high performance, no real drag slick designs.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compa...rmance=GT&performance=C&RunFlat=All&x=101&y=2
Some tire info for those who want to know, tires are rated on a scale called the UTQG rating.
UTQG means Uniform Tire Quality Grading, basically a test that tire manufactures have to put their tires through before they go on the street and give people a idea of the tires quality. I can tell you from experience the rating is 99% B.S. but it kind of gives you a idea of where the tire lies. Most tire manufactures build their tires to do good under these tests with little regard for how they perform in real world situations so they get a higher score and people will be more likely to buy them.
The number on there 280, 300, 320 ect. is the tread wear rating and supposed to give you a idea of how long the tire will last. According to their grading scale for every 100 a tire gets that is equal to about 20,000 miles. So in theory a 300 tire is supposed to go 60,000 miles, I highly doubt that will happen with these tires. I've seen tires rated as high as 700, that is 140,000 miles and I never saw a set go farther then 80-90K, but i've also seen tires rated at 400 go 120K. Amazingly those tires went away very quickly we wouldn't want tires lasting too long now would we.
Next is your traction, basically how well the tire grips wet pavement under normal driving circustances. So this wont give you much of a idea for the tires your looking for. AA,A,B,C are the ratings.
Temperature is the last letter and is the tires ability to resist heat. A,B,C are the ratings.
You have sooo many different rubber compounds available also natural and synthetic or combo's of both. Ever wonder why a Michelin tire is so expensive in comparision to other brands. They are made almost entirely of natural rubber which is alot more expensive then synthetic but is alot better. Natural rubber had less friction to it so the tire it's self has less rolling resistance and will last longer. I used to have 2 rubber balls 1 made of natural rubber and 1 made of synthetic and if you rolled them equally the natural rubber ball would roll almost twice as far and roll faster. It also would bounce higher with less force.
Now I'm way off track, I like the BFG G-force sport, it is W rated so it will be cheaper then the G-force KDW which is Y rated and has a lower tread wear rating but both are good. Either of those Goodyear's don't look bad, but I don't have much experience with them. I don't like Kumho tires, IMO they're cheap and with those you get what you pay for, I've used AVON motorcycle tires and seen their pickup tires but don't know about the performance tires, their other tires worked pretty good though.
I found this BFG, but again it's the bigger size
http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?tirebrand=BFGoodrich&tiremodel=g-Force+T/A+Drag+Radial
I know alot of people love the Nitto 555R, but alot of me belive this is because they get so much advertising in the asian market that everyone just buys because thats all they know. From what I understand Toyo used to own Nitto and Nitto was their secondary line up, but you could give them a shot and they're in our stock size.
http://www.wheelsforless.com/search_result.asp?Product_ID=NT555R
I know this probably didn't help and made it worse, but there are alot of manufactures out there now a days so it can be hard and we don't have a SyTy magazine saying hey run these they worked good. You might try hunting around the Camaro and LS1 sights becasue they run the same size on some models. They probably burn theirs off though, but it could get you closer. HTH
gjp
another post whore
Re: Slicks
I like the bfg kdws tires. Thats what I have been using. Traction feels good but with my trans who know how much power I was putting down. Not sure what the traction is like at track. I used to run nitto's on my stang and liked them a lot. But like B.K. said it was the hot tire and my friend who owned a tire store carried the size I needed.
I like the bfg kdws tires. Thats what I have been using. Traction feels good but with my trans who know how much power I was putting down. Not sure what the traction is like at track. I used to run nitto's on my stang and liked them a lot. But like B.K. said it was the hot tire and my friend who owned a tire store carried the size I needed.
Don W.
Stab it and steer it
Re: Slicks
Thanks for the posts guys!
Yes, I am having traction probs. On a hard launch I will spin the rears enough for the truck to go a little sideways. Sometimes enough to get the announcers (and my) attention. This started when I did the rear brake mod so I could build more boost at the line. Last few weeks I actually started launching with less boost to get less tire spin and made better 60' times. So it seems to me the HP is there I just gotta get it on the ground. Some decent street slicks that I can drive on would be ideal. If I have to change at the track then I'll do it but being the lazy cus that I am I'd rather not. My few planed winter mods (3" eshaust on order, with some other ideas) will only make things worse so just looking for ideas.
Thanks for the posts guys!
Yes, I am having traction probs. On a hard launch I will spin the rears enough for the truck to go a little sideways. Sometimes enough to get the announcers (and my) attention. This started when I did the rear brake mod so I could build more boost at the line. Last few weeks I actually started launching with less boost to get less tire spin and made better 60' times. So it seems to me the HP is there I just gotta get it on the ground. Some decent street slicks that I can drive on would be ideal. If I have to change at the track then I'll do it but being the lazy cus that I am I'd rather not. My few planed winter mods (3" eshaust on order, with some other ideas) will only make things worse so just looking for ideas.
wantingasy
Active member
Re: Slicks
I'd go with the Mickey Thompson ET drag radials. I think they come in our size too. Street legal also!! I wouldn't drive them in the rain though :rotf:
I'd go with the Mickey Thompson ET drag radials. I think they come in our size too. Street legal also!! I wouldn't drive them in the rain though :rotf:
Black Knight
I Glow Therefore I am
Re: Slicks
How much boost were you leaving the line with Don when you were going sideways? What are you doing now?
How much boost were you leaving the line with Don when you were going sideways? What are you doing now?
cloneman315
Active member
Re: Slicks
i went 1.5 60 ft on green dots they work very well ,not sure if u can still buy them but i think u can
i went 1.5 60 ft on green dots they work very well ,not sure if u can still buy them but i think u can
Black Knight
I Glow Therefore I am
Re: Slicks
Nope, green dots are going the way of the dodo.
EDIT: I was able to still find them available, I had read you couldn't get them any more, hmmmmmm
http://www.retreadsunlimited.com/
Nope, green dots are going the way of the dodo.
EDIT: I was able to still find them available, I had read you couldn't get them any more, hmmmmmm
http://www.retreadsunlimited.com/
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James Thomas
"NO CLASS"
Re: Slicks
M/T's or M&H Drag Radials! The M&H's work real well.
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James
M/T's or M&H Drag Radials! The M&H's work real well.
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James
Don W.
Stab it and steer it
Re: Slicks
Just checked DM and it looks like 13 lbs on the sideways launch then back to 5. This was last Wed. but it's been doing it since I modded the rear brakes so I could build the extra boost. I've been working on keeping the knock down on launch and when I do that AND build boost on launch it goes sideways which is telling me I'm on the right track tune wise. There does seem to be a sweet spot where it doesn't spin and launches well. 60' times come down but 1/4 times don't necessarily. The truck is weird though. Looking at a slip from two weeks ago when I won 1st, 60' is 1.881 ET is 13.175 trap is 103.16 and this is not that unusual.
Now that I've seeing a better tune I'm figuring with the 3" exhaust, traction bars and slicks (and a big front drive line, I'm still on the stocker here) I can run in the 12's fairly consistently.
Black Knight said:
Just checked DM and it looks like 13 lbs on the sideways launch then back to 5. This was last Wed. but it's been doing it since I modded the rear brakes so I could build the extra boost. I've been working on keeping the knock down on launch and when I do that AND build boost on launch it goes sideways which is telling me I'm on the right track tune wise. There does seem to be a sweet spot where it doesn't spin and launches well. 60' times come down but 1/4 times don't necessarily. The truck is weird though. Looking at a slip from two weeks ago when I won 1st, 60' is 1.881 ET is 13.175 trap is 103.16 and this is not that unusual.
Now that I've seeing a better tune I'm figuring with the 3" exhaust, traction bars and slicks (and a big front drive line, I'm still on the stocker here) I can run in the 12's fairly consistently.
Black Knight
I Glow Therefore I am
Re: Slicks
Those look pretty good James, I'd never heard of them before, what size and model are you running, I couldn't find one that was close.
http://www.mandhtires.com/store.php?crn=66&action=show&show_products_mode=cat_click
or on the M/T site, these are close
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/street.php?item=SportsmanPro
Those look pretty good James, I'd never heard of them before, what size and model are you running, I couldn't find one that was close.
http://www.mandhtires.com/store.php?crn=66&action=show&show_products_mode=cat_click
or on the M/T site, these are close
http://www.mickeythompsontires.com/street.php?item=SportsmanPro
Black Knight
I Glow Therefore I am
Re: Slicks
Wow, 13 lbs that awsome Don, I was never able to get much more then 8 or 9 lbs, I can't wait till next year!
Wow, 13 lbs that awsome Don, I was never able to get much more then 8 or 9 lbs, I can't wait till next year!
JSM
Active member
Re: Slicks
Jeremy has the BFG Drag Radials. Although not the BEST race tire, they are a good compromise for street and track. I think he has ~600 miles on them now, and 30 passes or so. Of course he is doing AWD burnouts to get some heat in the tires now though.
I have been fairly impressed with them so far.
He choose not to go MT, or others due to being so soft and not wanting to swap AT the track. Drive it in, race it, drive it home.
O yea, and he has left the line at 19psi of boost, with just some tire spin. Again after a burnout.
Jeremy has the BFG Drag Radials. Although not the BEST race tire, they are a good compromise for street and track. I think he has ~600 miles on them now, and 30 passes or so. Of course he is doing AWD burnouts to get some heat in the tires now though.
I have been fairly impressed with them so far.
He choose not to go MT, or others due to being so soft and not wanting to swap AT the track. Drive it in, race it, drive it home.
O yea, and he has left the line at 19psi of boost, with just some tire spin. Again after a burnout.
scrape
New member
Re: Slicks
i have heard lots of good things about the nitto 555r's (not just from magazines). i have talked to ppl who have used them on mustangs and other rwd cars, and they had mostly good things to say. the only negative thing was, burnouts or not dont expect to get many miles out of them. 25000-30000 miles at the most usually.
i was also gonna suggest just picking up some cheap 15" wheels and some race slicks, but like someones already posted, it would be a pain in the ass to have swap wheels when you get to the track and then swap back to come home. :2cents:
i have heard lots of good things about the nitto 555r's (not just from magazines). i have talked to ppl who have used them on mustangs and other rwd cars, and they had mostly good things to say. the only negative thing was, burnouts or not dont expect to get many miles out of them. 25000-30000 miles at the most usually.
i was also gonna suggest just picking up some cheap 15" wheels and some race slicks, but like someones already posted, it would be a pain in the ass to have swap wheels when you get to the track and then swap back to come home. :2cents:
gjp
another post whore
Re: Slicks
That was the reason for getting the sy. Awd so I dont have to change rear wheels/tires every friday night.LOL 13lbs. WOW I think 8-9 is the most I did. My brakes did not slip, I am just scared of doing more and smoking a transmission. OH, i did that anyways, doh
That was the reason for getting the sy. Awd so I dont have to change rear wheels/tires every friday night.LOL 13lbs. WOW I think 8-9 is the most I did. My brakes did not slip, I am just scared of doing more and smoking a transmission. OH, i did that anyways, doh