T220 on stock truck

[The Devils Own Chariot]

I got some octane booster filled up my tank with 92 octane. I poored about 3 bottles of octane booster in with a full tank of gas. I slowly played with boost settings. I was able to run T220 setting on my ultimate. MY GOD that thing moved. I virtually had no knock at all. I have not put data master on with that setting to check things about a bit better. Is this not a good idea with a stock engine tranny and turbo to run that setting? I just can belive what kinda beast I unleashed with just turning up the boost. Just thought I would share.

 

[skwayb]

Re: T220 on stock truck

How ould you know you didn't have any knock if you didn't have datamaster on it? just because you can't hear it doesn't mean you don't have it.

IMHO if you are gonna run it hard on settings you aren't sure of, always have your scan tool runing.

 

[Ross L]

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ugh oh,,,, 3 bottles of "octane boost" would have brought your 92 octane up to around 92.8. Remember a octane point is 0.1. Now if your were talking about Torco or something similar then nevermind. I can't hear knock until around 8-9 degree's on my very quiet GN(when I lost the original headgaskets). 20(+)psi + unaudible knock = :rant:

 

[Raist103]

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octane boost is nothing more then a scam dont use it unless you plan to beak something for 20psi and extra timing i would run at least 4gal 110 and 6-7gal 93 or kep boost at 15-16 t1

 

[turbodig]

Re: T220 on stock truck

ugh oh,,,, 3 bottles of "octane boost" would have brought your 92 octane up to around 92.8. Remember a octane point is 0.1. Now if your were talking about Torco or something similar then nevermind. I can't hear knock until around 8-9 degree's on my very quiet GN(when I lost the original headgaskets). 20(+)psi + unaudible knock = :rant:

x2.

Consider the following:

There aren't too many known substances that are greater than 133 octane.
Say you used a gallon of such a substance to an otherwise full tank

14 gals * 92 =1288
1 gal * 133 = 133

133 + 1288 = 1421

1421/ 15 (total gallons of gas)

94.7 Octane.


Now, I don't know how big of "bottles" you put in, but assuming they're the 12oz variety, you added 36 oz, or about a quart.

In order to achieve the ~95 octane above, the stuff you put in would have to have roughly 500+ octane.

Needless to say, there is no such substance.

I don't know about you, but I wouldn't feel comfortable at all running anything at 20 psi on 95 octane. To say nothing for the ~93 octane you had in there...

The 20 psi settings shouldn't be used with anything less than 104 octane, or so. And that's assuming everything is running right.

 

[The Devils Own Chariot]

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I have a built in knock light with my ultimate. Are you guys sure about the octane booster. As soon as I use it the knock light stops flickering. I could barley run 15 psi without it.

 

[skipztt]

Re: T220 on stock truck

octane booster is junk. i would never run it in my ty..i dont care what anyone says either.

 

[Raist103]

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I have a built in knock light with my ultimate. Are you guys sure about the octane booster. As soon as I use it the knock light stops flickering. I could barley run 15 psi without it.

yes 100% and just because the gauge does not light up does not mean you have 0 knock

 

[cameronsclone]

Re: T220 on stock truck

Unless he uses torco, witch from what I've seen is a pretty legit booster.

 

[The Devils Own Chariot]

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http://www.autobarn.net/chs295.html

This is what I was using. I dont know about you but how the heck does and a stock truck not blow up runing 20 psi if this stuff does not work? And by how dam fast it is at 20 psi I dont think its pulling much timing.

 

[cameronsclone]

Re: T220 on stock truck

I have unknowingly run it at t2-20 with 93 octane and didn't know till I went WOT from a light. Ran like a bitch, but I wouldn't risk doing it again without xylene or something else.

 

[The Devils Own Chariot]

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what do you mean run like a bitch? Yeah I was wondering about it as well. I wasnt sure if that was the norm for sure.

 

[93 typhoon]

Re: T220 on stock truck

I used those octane that they sale in pepboys and to tell you the truth you don't feel any power. now i used 113 octane from VP and there you really feel the power that the truck gets.

 

[The Devils Own Chariot]

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I thought the knock light was tied into your actual knock sensor readings? If your knock sensor isn’t seeing it then what the heck?

 

[The Devils Own Chariot]

Re: T220 on stock truck

?????????????????anyone??????????????????

 

[It's just a six]

Re: T220 on stock truck

Put in some xylene,don't waste your $$ on those crappy octane boosters,except for torco.

 

[The Devils Own Chariot]

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I have a lot of stupid questions.
I did some logging tonight. I did one with 15psi and 20psi. For some reason datamaster only reads max boost of like 13 lbs. Is that because of the 3 bar? I got a knock count of 1800 at the highest. The whole time the truck never pulled timing. I got 0 retard no matter what. Can someone enlighten me.

 

[Tooky]

Re: T220 on stock truck

(Obviously) your octane booster could be legitimate regardless of anyone's advice. If it works for you, then what's to say you shouldn't use it? Bottom line is to use Datamaster to check the knock retard when turning up the boost to areas your truck is unfamiliar with. Mistakes happen easy and damage can occur quickly. Just be cautious and you will be able to continue enjoying that extra torque when the boost needle soars!! :lol:

Oh yeah - check the settings in datamaster, there is a window with a series of checkboxes, you change the MAP Sensor from "OEM" to "3-bar". :tup:

 

[dgoodhue]

Re: T220 on stock truck

Some time the ECM has a random knock count when it starts up, the more important factor is if the ECM is getting additional knock counts. If it is getting knock counts, it should be getting knock retard. If its isn't something might not be right in the programming, either EST circuit int he chip maybe is bad or perhaps some modified the knock attach rate in the chip.

Also 13 psi, Is your datamaster set for 3 bar chip? if it is the correct boost level it might explain why you getting little to no knock retard.

 

[Sy+Ty]

Re: T220 on stock truck

Also 13 psi, Is your datamaster set for 3 bar chip? if it is the correct boost level it might explain why you getting little to no knock retard.

x2, exactly what I was thinking. Are you running an aftermarket boost gauge, or were you initially relying on the chip settings as an indicator of boost level?

Regardless, if you were really only running 13 psi, that extra oomph you felt could've simply been additional timing in the T2/T3 chip settings.

Sy+Ty