2000 sonoma 4.3 buildup

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zq8

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i own a 2000 sonoma zq8 w/ a 4.3. i really like the sy/ty trucks and would like to do somthing similar with mine. i know that original parts and drivetrain are rare and costly, but i know that the after market parts are out there do do what i need to with the motor and there are a variety of tranmissions and rear ends that i could use. my problem is that my truck is 2wd and i dont know how realistic a 2wd to awd conversion is going to be.

basicly, id like to build up and turbocharge my truck, but id like some advise from some people who know the best way to achieve this. also if anyone knows about 2wd to awd conversions being done i would appreciate it.
 

zq8

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clarification

clarification

just so nobody makes the assumption from this post that im just some tool with a truck and a big idea i should clarify/ expand upon what i said earlier. im just a curious newbe trying to make friends and convo. EDUCATE ME... i have pretty realistic goals and realize that this is not going to be a walk in the park... for me to say i wanted to clone one or your trucks in theis new body stile would be rediculas.... consider this a mild tribute to the greatness of the syclone.
 

SeattleSy#1255

Category 5 Conservative
We'll, the problem is every month or so there is someone out there that ask this exact question related to wanting their n/a 4.3 turbo'd and comes here and wants to ask all these questions. Everyone for the most part will tell you to just buy a sy or a ty as cost will probably be cheapter in the long run to do so. Knowone wants to be a dick, but its just a common asked question with the same repetitive answer...buy a syty instead.
 

JYD

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SeattleSy#1255 said:
. Knowone wants to be a dick, but its just a common asked question with the same repetitive answer...buy a syty instead.

which is a stupid answer. this isnt the classifieds section. this isnt the syclone trucks for sale section. its the conversions section. right? for people wanting to convert some other type of vehicle to syty running gear. the guy came here because thats what he wants to do, if he wanted to buy a phucking syclone, hed be in the classifieds section. you people need to get off yer high phucking horse, or stay out of this section.

to answer the question. the conversion is not that hard, and it isnt that expensive. syclone guys just get all whiney because they think they are this elite group of people because they own part of an ill-fated 80's fad.

1st. converting a 2 wheel drive s10 to 4wd IS very difficult, and not worth even trying. youd be best off starting with a 4wd frame. the front suspension is completly different. so, this part of your plan is not too realistic, unless you can find a 4wd frame or rolling chasiss, there are some on ebay every now and then.

2nd. turbo charging your 4.3 is the easy part. you first need to decide what kind of power you want to shoot for. if you want good bang for the buck, 300-350 whp, you wont have to do too much....more than that, you are looking at some engine work, and some more serious fuel system modifications.
try to get yourself a set of syty exhaust manifolds for starters. the will fit your engine and chassis perfectly. you can use a stock syty turbo, or an upgraded one, you will need a front mount intercooler of some sort, because the stock syty ones are a joke, and not worth the hassle of plumbing the whole system to work properly. for the fuel system, at low boost levels, you are going to want at the very least to upgrage your fuel pump, either by getting a bigger one in the tank, or adding an inline unit. you will need to also get yourself a boost referencing fuel pressure regulator, meaning its going to add 1psi of FP to each psi of boost. with a good intercooler, and more fuel, you woupld probably be pretty safe running 10-12psi or less of boost on pump gas. this would probably add 100-150 more hp to your truck. add a turbo specific camshaft, for a even more power. you will also need to have your truck's computer tuned to modify the fuel, and timing. the timing is very important, because it will requre a very different curve than your NA motor. your transmission may need to be upgraded, but your stock rear end should be up to the task. a simple setup like this could probably be had for 2-2500$, not including labor. so, probably a little cheaper, but more involved than slapping on a a parasitic supercharger that offers very little in upgradeability.
If you are looking for somehthing a little more serious, you are going to need to look into some lower compresion, forged pistons, good quality bottom end fasteners, rods, crank, bigger injectors, or even a completely different intake manifold setup, with fuel rails, and big throttle body. with forged internals, some head work, bigger turbo, more boost, and the other necessary parts, 450-500 whp is within reason.
 

93ty475

Donating Member
JYD said:
to answer the question. the conversion is not that hard, and it isnt that expensive.

i take it you've done this conversion? read the sticky...this is a section to "tell all" .... so tell us about your conversion.... any pics??? turbocharging a late model s-series is very possible, but the most important aspect of this conversion is a "REALITY CHECK"....

This forum was requested to post technical aspects of dropping a SyTy drivetrain into other vehicles.
Also if someone were to transplant into a SyTy Chassis, this is the place to tell all.

Although this is not condoned activity we realize it happens.

After all, everyone wants to be like a SyTy!
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
JYD said:
SeattleSy#1255 said:
. Knowone wants to be a dick, but its just a common asked question with the same repetitive answer...buy a syty instead.

to answer the question. the conversion is not that hard, and it isnt that expensive. syclone guys just get all whiney because they think they are this elite group of people because they own part of an ill-fated 80's fad.

2nd. turbo charging your 4.3 is the easy part. you first need to decide what kind of power you want to shoot for. if you want good bang for the buck, 300-350 whp, you wont have to do too much....more than that, you are looking at some engine work, and some more serious fuel system modifications.

with a good intercooler, and more fuel, you woupld probably be pretty safe running 10-12psi or less of boost on pump gas. this would probably add 100-150 more hp to your truck.

you will also need to have your truck's computer tuned to modify the fuel, and timing. the timing is very important, because it will requre a very different curve than your NA motor.

your transmission may need to be upgraded, but your stock rear end should be up to the task. a simple setup like this could probably be had for 2-2500$, not including labor. so, probably a little cheaper, but more involved than slapping on a a parasitic supercharger that offers very little in upgradeability.

Its not that hard? Turbocharging a N/A 4.3 isn't as easy as you say it is. How are you going to fuel it? Just having the ECM tuned isn't that easy, you not going to find many poeple who are guru on this subject for the factory 4.3 ECM (syty came with a completely different ECM than any other S-series, its out of Turbo sunbird). I would guess you would have to suffer with a FMU. 10-12 psi on pump gas with 9.5:1 compression and limited tuning :roll: A stock Syty with 14psi spits the rods outside the block if isn't tuned properly and its 8.35:1 compression, how do you think 4.3 is going to do with no much less boost and factory internals?

I am sure a compentent owner, who really understand the tuning can put together a 4.3 Turbo for $2500, but the reality is unless you have expereince with turbo's and this type of project, I would not recommend jumping into it. Many will also find that the cost and the labor/research involved, they could have bought a SyTy vs their vehicle which cost the same but is worth 1/2-1/3 less. IMO If someone really wants to convert a S-Series to SyTy specs, the best way to do this is buy a wrecked one.
 

JYD

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dgoodhue said:
JYD said:
SeattleSy#1255 said:
. Knowone wants to be a dick, but its just a common asked question with the same repetitive answer...buy a syty instead.

to answer the question. the conversion is not that hard, and it isnt that expensive. syclone guys just get all whiney because they think they are this elite group of people because they own part of an ill-fated 80's fad.

2nd. turbo charging your 4.3 is the easy part. you first need to decide what kind of power you want to shoot for. if you want good bang for the buck, 300-350 whp, you wont have to do too much....more than that, you are looking at some engine work, and some more serious fuel system modifications.

with a good intercooler, and more fuel, you woupld probably be pretty safe running 10-12psi or less of boost on pump gas. this would probably add 100-150 more hp to your truck.

you will also need to have your truck's computer tuned to modify the fuel, and timing. the timing is very important, because it will requre a very different curve than your NA motor.

your transmission may need to be upgraded, but your stock rear end should be up to the task. a simple setup like this could probably be had for 2-2500$, not including labor. so, probably a little cheaper, but more involved than slapping on a a parasitic supercharger that offers very little in upgradeability.

Its not that hard? Turbocharging a N/A 4.3 isn't as easy as you say it is. How are you going to fuel it? Just having the ECM tuned isn't that easy, you not going to find many poeple who are guru on this subject for the factory 4.3 ECM (syty came with a completely different ECM than any other S-series, its out of Turbo sunbird). I would guess you would have to suffer with a FMU. 10-12 psi on pump gas with 9.5:1 compression and limited tuning :roll: A stock Syty with 14psi spits the rods outside the block if isn't tuned properly and its 8.35:1 compression, how do you think 4.3 is going to do with no much less boost and factory internals?

I am sure a compentent owner, who really understand the tuning can put together a 4.3 Turbo for $2500, but the reality is unless you have expereince with turbo's and this type of project, I would not recommend jumping into it. Many will also find that the cost and the labor/research involved, they could have bought a SyTy vs their vehicle which cost the same but is worth 1/2-1/3 less. IMO If someone really wants to convert a S-Series to SyTy specs, the best way to do this is buy a wrecked one.

reading comprehension.....you should look into it.

this forum is for people who want to put syty running gear in their vehicles, or build a similar setup. this forum isnt to tell people to buy a syty instead of building what they want... get a clue.
 

bdydrpds10

Yes I drive a Typhoon.
Easy guys. I just wanted to say I agree with both of you to a
certain extent. I started looking on this forum for only one
reason. That was to find out how to "stick" a turbo on my
N/A t.b.i. 4.3. :lol: Well 3 months later I ended up buying
a Ty. I love it. There is nothing like it. What I'm getting at
is that I am STILL going to put a turbo on my N/A 4.3. I
am collecting parts now. I have read every post and book/ article
on turbocharging a N/A motor. I feel very confident that I can
perform this task ,... Now the motor will not be able to handle more than 6psi.
but all I wanted is a functional turbo that would add 50-75 hp.
The sad part is that I haven't posted one post on this conversion
section because of everone on here saying "IT CAN'T BE DONE"
or "BUY A REAL ONE" and busting my A$$.So I'm going to do it w/o
asking for any help. Of cource when she is
done I'll show everyone.
 

MRKING

New Parts for Old Trucks
Funny how people think the advise given is for some reason other than to actually try to help .

I laughed at the "turbo charging your 4.3 is the easy part" If its so easy than why isnt there more s-10's with turbos everywhere ? But the best part yet was "they think they are this elite group of people because they own part of an ill-fated 80's fad "

Thanks for catagorizing us all together . Your such a poet with words . After just 34 posts , your making friends already .
 

Sy-Clone

Boost Junkie
I have to jump in here and put my 2 cents in. With the arrival of the TunerCat program and the modded Edelbrock#2114 intake manifold us 4.3 guys can now see the light at the end of the tunnel. After prepping the block with the required parts( forged pistons,rods,main caps etc.) the n/a 4.3 is ready to make some serious hp. I welcome anyone to join me as I walk the walk and talk the talk in making a killer 4.3 Sonoma. PEACE>Tony
 

TurboManiacal

Donating Member
JYD said:
reading comprehension.....you should look into it.

this forum is for people who want to put syty running gear in their vehicles, or build a similar setup. this forum isnt to tell people to buy a syty instead of building what they want... get a clue.

:tdown:

I'm glad that after just 34 posts you know exactly what this forum is about. DGoodhue has forgotten more about turbocharging and general mechanical repairs on S-Series than you will ever know in your whole life.

As for me? I'm just a regular old mod that can read the writing on the wall:

This forum was requested to post technical aspects of dropping a SyTy drivetrain into other vehicles. Also if someone were to transplant into a SyTy Chassis, this is the place to tell all.

Meaning this forum is for the "Doers" not the incessent spike wannabe's that will play Internet Warrior all night long and ask 15,000 questions but won't pick up the wrench once to begin a project. Or even pick up the phone to begin ordering the necessary parts.

If you have a question, don't make a new post like all the other mind numbing zombies...do a search and learn who is doing what and ask specific questions of them. Want to learn how to tune your newfound beast? Go to the tuning section and read up on aftermarket stand alone fuel management systems. Etc Etc.

God do I hate self-righteous pricks that think we owe it to them to not be indignant at people who ask us the same questions day after day after day. I've been on this board for 5 years and it never ever ever quits. I don't suppose it ever will...that I can handle...but the holier than though crowd that thinks it is our duty to help you day in and day out? :rotf:

Yeah, no. F*ck that.
 

Jimmy

Banned
SyGoat said:
JYD said:
reading comprehension.....you should look into it.

this forum is for people who want to put syty running gear in their vehicles, or build a similar setup. this forum isnt to tell people to buy a syty instead of building what they want... get a clue.

:tdown:

I'm glad that after just 34 posts you know exactly what this forum is about. DGoodhue has forgotten more about turbocharging and general mechanical repairs on S-Series than you will ever know in your whole life.

As for me? I'm just a regular old mod that can read the writing on the wall:

This forum was requested to post technical aspects of dropping a SyTy drivetrain into other vehicles. Also if someone were to transplant into a SyTy Chassis, this is the place to tell all.

Meaning this forum is for the "Doers" not the incessent spike wannabe's that will play Internet Warrior all night long and ask 15,000 questions but won't pick up the wrench once to begin a project. Or even pick up the phone to begin ordering the necessary parts.

If you have a question, don't make a new post like all the other mind numbing zombies...do a search and learn who is doing what and ask specific questions of them. Want to learn how to tune your newfound beast? Go to the tuning section and read up on aftermarket stand alone fuel management systems. Etc Etc.

God do I hate self-righteous pricks that think we owe it to them to not be indignant at people who ask us the same questions day after day after day. I've been on this board for 5 years and it never ever ever quits. I don't suppose it ever will...that I can handle...but the holier than though crowd that thinks it is our duty to help you day in and day out? :rotf:

Yeah, no. F*ck that.
:stupid:
 
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