another what would you do turbo ?

518

Member
Ok so heres my situation. I need a new turbo. Mine is not rebuildable. I also need a new lower intercooler. My engine/trans are 100% fresh rebuild. I am trying to decide if i wanna go upgraded turbo/intercooler. I dont wanna do a large stall or anything like that. But if im going to spend money on turbo and intercooler i might as well get some performance out of it right? So basically im asking will it be beneficial to me to get the sportmachines intercooler and forged wastegate. An upgraded turbo. And run a stock or close to stock stall? Or am I spinning my wheels with a small converter? Im not looking to set the world on fire i just wanna drive the truck and have it be reliable.
 

Damian

Member
Re: another what would you do turbo ?

My honest opinion, leave it stock. I have a lot of stuff done to mine, but it always seems like something is wrong with mine.
 

Darin

New member
Re: another what would you do turbo ?

Either go big or go mild, the in between builds always seem to leave people broke/frustrated/selling the damn thing.

Unless you plan on larger injectors/fuel pump/regulator/chip the biggest I would suggest is a billet 17c wheel on the stock turbo.
 

518

Member
Re: another what would you do turbo ?

I hear you. I have another build going currently that is pretty intense. I do have to buy injectors/pump and i dont mind buying a regulator and chip. But i didn't know if I did all that and didnt change the down pipe/converter if i was wasting my time/$.
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
Re: another what would you do turbo ?

My :2cents: about turbos on stock motors. I like to group them into 3 options. stock, bolt in and turbo/DP combo.

The stock turbo is efficient at stock boost levels. A bigger turbo may have a small gains because reduce exhaust restriction but a turbo swap is probably not worth the minimal gain at stock boost levels. The stock turbo on a Syclone can do mid 12's at 18-20 psi with more timing & better gas. By 18-20psi you are fighting hot air intake temps as the stock turbo is not efficient at this boost level. You can help offset the intake temps at higher boost levels with alky injection.

A larger mitsubishi bolt in turbo is only going to be worthwhile if your going to run higher boost levels than stock. With a larger exhaust housing such as a 14cm is used, a high stall converter should be used. At higher boost levels the stock injectors maybe a limitation, transmission life could be shortened.

A moderate turbo (such as PTE52) and 3" DP is going to be more effiecent than the mitsubishi turbos. It is going to require bigger injectors, bigger stall converter and shortly require a beefed up transmission. At 25psi and higher octane, mid's 11 is possible in a Syclone. I would caution about going too large of a turbo with stock motor/cam/head, the motor just isn't going to flow enough to advantage of a large frame turbo. (ie PTE 72) A mid frame turbo with a 60-1 (PTE52 uses this wheel), 61mm or 62mm compressor wheel is going to flow more than enough air for a stock motor.

From a tuning perspective, putting on a bigger turbo such as a PTE52 only stock motor is much easier tune for. It mostly only affects the wot tuning. Putting on a set of L35 head, moderate cam and 20g/3" DP is much more difficult to tune for because it affect the entire VE fueling curve. Both combo may make the similar hp, but the bigger turbo on the stock motor is the easier tuning route.
 

518

Member
Re: another what would you do turbo ?

Ok great information here and i really appreciate it. So lets say this. If my goal was to be able to run consistently in the high 12s. I can stay with a stock style turbo, im probably going to buy sport machines lower intercooler and the forged waste gate. Then i could still run stock injectors and stall? I also plan on doing johson ic pump and the upgraded fuel pump. So with what im thinking and a tune, am i inline with my goals? I was thinking about getting the billet wheel 17c from darin
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
Re: another what would you do turbo ?

That should be no problem assuming it running 100% (runs clean on a scan tool with minimal to no spark retard). Sometimes that is easy said than done.
 
Top