Basic steering question
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Re: Basic steering question
buy an upgraded shaft, just so happens i have one for sale, and make sure your suspension is tight.
buy an upgraded shaft, just so happens i have one for sale, and make sure your suspension is tight.
Philntex
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Basic steering question
To make it "harder" to turn, you will either have to change the spool inside the gearbox, rebuild your box, or purchase a new box.
If you send it out or purchase another one, make sure you let them know that it is an AWD vehicle
(this is just one company I found, I don't endorse them, but am using them as an example.)
Power Steering Services
2347 E. Kearney St. • Springfield, MO 65803 • (417) 864-6676
"What is a quick-ratio conversion and why would I want one?"
During the 1960s and 1970s, GM installed power steering gearboxes in their "A" and "F" body cars that had a very slow turning ratio. It took as many as 4 to 4½ turns of the steering wheel to get the wheels to turn from extreme right to extreme left. This slow turning ratio was most noticeable when parking or negotiating curves. Not only does it take more turns of the steering wheel to turn the wheels, it also takes more turns of the steering wheel to correct the direction of the car. This means that correcting quickly in a curve or taking evasive maneuveurs to avoid an accident takes longer with a slow turning ratio.
With our quick-ratio conversion, we install a NEW factory quick-ratio worm gear and power piston in your gearbox as it is rebuilt. This will give you a 12:1 ratio and bring your car from lock to lock in 3 turns or less, depending on your application. This will greatly enhance the car's driveability, handling, and ability to avoid road hazards.
"Can I take a power steering gearbox from a late-model Camaro or Firebird and make it work on my Typhoon/Syclone?
There are several things to consider before attempting this swap:
• The Camaro/Firebird gearboxes have internal stops built into the gearbox to limit the amount of swing for the pitman arm ("F" bodies do not need as much swing as "T" trucks ). If you install an "F" body gearbox on your "T" Truck without removing the internal stops, the turning radius of your car will be reduced and you will have a hard time making U-turns or parking.
• If a late model (1980 and up) gearbox is used, the flex coupling will need to be changed because it is smaller in diameter than the early models.
• The power steering pump pressure and return lines must be changed, since the late model gearboxes are metric and the early models are SAE. In addition, the pressure fitting on the back of the power steering pump will need to be changed to metric.
Make your musclecar handle as well as it runs by converting your slow existing power gearbox to a fast quick-ratio 12:1 constant-ratio gearbox using new factory parts. With our conversion, no other changes to your hoses or coupler are necessary. Just remove the gearbox and ship it to me, with or without the pitman arm attached, and it will be returned to you ready to install in about 2 weeks. Exchange units available. With standard detailing and life time warranty $249.00, slightly more for extreme detailing, plus shipping.
To make it "harder" to turn, you will either have to change the spool inside the gearbox, rebuild your box, or purchase a new box.
If you send it out or purchase another one, make sure you let them know that it is an AWD vehicle
(this is just one company I found, I don't endorse them, but am using them as an example.)
Power Steering Services
2347 E. Kearney St. • Springfield, MO 65803 • (417) 864-6676
"What is a quick-ratio conversion and why would I want one?"
During the 1960s and 1970s, GM installed power steering gearboxes in their "A" and "F" body cars that had a very slow turning ratio. It took as many as 4 to 4½ turns of the steering wheel to get the wheels to turn from extreme right to extreme left. This slow turning ratio was most noticeable when parking or negotiating curves. Not only does it take more turns of the steering wheel to turn the wheels, it also takes more turns of the steering wheel to correct the direction of the car. This means that correcting quickly in a curve or taking evasive maneuveurs to avoid an accident takes longer with a slow turning ratio.
With our quick-ratio conversion, we install a NEW factory quick-ratio worm gear and power piston in your gearbox as it is rebuilt. This will give you a 12:1 ratio and bring your car from lock to lock in 3 turns or less, depending on your application. This will greatly enhance the car's driveability, handling, and ability to avoid road hazards.
"Can I take a power steering gearbox from a late-model Camaro or Firebird and make it work on my Typhoon/Syclone?
There are several things to consider before attempting this swap:
• The Camaro/Firebird gearboxes have internal stops built into the gearbox to limit the amount of swing for the pitman arm ("F" bodies do not need as much swing as "T" trucks ). If you install an "F" body gearbox on your "T" Truck without removing the internal stops, the turning radius of your car will be reduced and you will have a hard time making U-turns or parking.
• If a late model (1980 and up) gearbox is used, the flex coupling will need to be changed because it is smaller in diameter than the early models.
• The power steering pump pressure and return lines must be changed, since the late model gearboxes are metric and the early models are SAE. In addition, the pressure fitting on the back of the power steering pump will need to be changed to metric.
Make your musclecar handle as well as it runs by converting your slow existing power gearbox to a fast quick-ratio 12:1 constant-ratio gearbox using new factory parts. With our conversion, no other changes to your hoses or coupler are necessary. Just remove the gearbox and ship it to me, with or without the pitman arm attached, and it will be returned to you ready to install in about 2 weeks. Exchange units available. With standard detailing and life time warranty $249.00, slightly more for extreme detailing, plus shipping.
Philntex
Member
Re: Basic steering question
Another box to consider is the Detroit Speed and Engineering box. Instead of an 800 series saginaw box, the modify a new 600 series box.
http://www.detroitspeed.com/productpages/indproduct/steeringprod/steering_gear_prod.htm
600 STEERING GEAR
Now you can achieve rack and pinion steering performance with a bolt-in steering gear. This steering gear can be used to replace the common GM 800 series power steering gear used from 1964 to 1992. Its features include:
- All new steering gear unit, not rebuilt
- Increased steering feel due to low friction gear design
- Precision rack and pinion valve technology
- Late model performance car feel
- Quick ratio 12.7:1
- 6 lbs lighter than stock
- Original power pitman arm may be used
- A new 3/4 x 30 spline rag joint is available through DSE
- New o-ring power steering hoses are needed
Note:
- A new 3/4" x 30" rag joint is needed. Available through DSE
- A new o-ring and power steering hose are needed.
Available through DSE.
Another box to consider is the Detroit Speed and Engineering box. Instead of an 800 series saginaw box, the modify a new 600 series box.
http://www.detroitspeed.com/productpages/indproduct/steeringprod/steering_gear_prod.htm
600 STEERING GEAR
Now you can achieve rack and pinion steering performance with a bolt-in steering gear. This steering gear can be used to replace the common GM 800 series power steering gear used from 1964 to 1992. Its features include:
- All new steering gear unit, not rebuilt
- Increased steering feel due to low friction gear design
- Precision rack and pinion valve technology
- Late model performance car feel
- Quick ratio 12.7:1
- 6 lbs lighter than stock
- Original power pitman arm may be used
- A new 3/4 x 30 spline rag joint is available through DSE
- New o-ring power steering hoses are needed
Note:
- A new 3/4" x 30" rag joint is needed. Available through DSE
- A new o-ring and power steering hose are needed.
Available through DSE.
Re: Basic steering question
From what is sounds like I need to replace the steering box. Do I want a quicker ratio steering box if I feel that the amount of turns it takes to reach one end to the other end is great? I just want it harder to turn from one end to the other end. It feels to soft.
From what is sounds like I need to replace the steering box. Do I want a quicker ratio steering box if I feel that the amount of turns it takes to reach one end to the other end is great? I just want it harder to turn from one end to the other end. It feels to soft.
0966Sy
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Re: Basic steering question
Get a Zq8 box and a new steering shaft, and problem solved. You will notice a major change with just a new shaft. I have a billit flaming river shaft, $230-250 this post talks a little about steering, has part numbers to.
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=33490&highlight=flaming+river
Get a Zq8 box and a new steering shaft, and problem solved. You will notice a major change with just a new shaft. I have a billit flaming river shaft, $230-250 this post talks a little about steering, has part numbers to.
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=33490&highlight=flaming+river