Controller for A1000 or Bosch 044 ?

Ty 1885

Ty 1885

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After driving TY for an hour, the A1000 pump gets MUCH louder! I'm worried that it will burn up.
Should i get a controler for it (Aeromotive 16306) or just replace it with Bosch 044 pump (does not require a controler)

I run max boost 22psi, Will Bosch 044 pump supply enough fuel?

Thanks..
 
e95 Ty

e95 Ty

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Re: Controler for A1000 or Bosch 044 ?

Re: Controler for A1000 or Bosch 044 ?

Are you still using a return type regulator with your fuel system?
 
e95 Ty

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Re: Controller for A1000 or Bosch 044 ?

I have been running a Aeromotive Eliminator in my Ty....I did go with the controller since i do drive it on the street. The controller did make quite a difference noise wise and seems to work very well for me. My pump is submerged in a sump system welded to the bottom of my stock tank though....wondering if your pump is cavitating causing the pump to overheat and get louder as it gets hotter.

Maybe someone with more experience than me could help out a bit more.


Matt
 
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e95 Ty

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Re: Controller for A1000 or Bosch 044 ?

Well, since no one else responded i will give you my opinion on whats causing the pump to get louder. If your fuel pump flows more fuel than your lines/regulator can flow it can cause the fuel to back up at the pump causing your fuel pump to have to work extremely hard and overheat. The problem gets worse as the now overheated pump also heats up the fuel which is supposed to cool the pump.

I have 2 -8 feed lines and 1 -10 return line with a very large regulator for my fuel system....mine may be bigger than most, but i am running e98 for fuel. Hope this helps.

Matt
 
It's just a six

It's just a six

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Re: Controller for A1000 or Bosch 044 ?

I have read you need @ least a -8 return line, if it has a stock return line, it's too small.
 
SYCLONE#1531

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Re: Controller for A1000 or Bosch 044 ?

Bosch 044. I ran a aeromotive for about 10 miles with same problem. After my trial run, I stuck my hand in fuel cell and about burned my hand with hot fuel! As a result. Off came the aeromotive and and in came the bosch! My lines were -10 to the fpump - 8 to the fuel rail. -6 return . Fuel system seams in perfect harmony now!!
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e95 Ty

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Re: Controller for A1000 or Bosch 044 ?

SYCLONE#1531 said:
Bosch 044. I ran a aeromotive for about 10 miles with same problem. After my trial run, I stuck my hand in fuel cell and about burned my hand with hot fuel! As a result. Off came the aeromotive and and in came the bosch! My lines were -10 to the fpump - 8 to the fuel rail. -6 return . Fuel system seams in perfect harmony now!!
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Glad you fixed your problem....The -6 return still seems a bit on the small side for such large feed lines and that size pump. :2cents:
 
RealFastV6

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Re: Controller for A1000 or Bosch 044 ?

I used the A1000 on my Buick and never had an issue with overheating- but I had 10/8 lines. What size are you using? You might also consider a fuel cooler in the return line if you doing that sort of long distance driving and you don't want to get the controller.

EDIT: I think I lied - I had 8/6. It was a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away. Not sure why I never had a problem- don't know how many times I drove it for an hour straight I guess.
 
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Ty 1885

Ty 1885

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Re: Controller for A1000 or Bosch 044 ?

I run -10 to pump, -8 to regulator, stock feed line (3/8) return.
Just cant decide what is better (controler or bosch 044) ?

A1000 + Controler = 2 things that can go wrong
Bosch 044 = 1 thing that can go wrong

The only concern i have about Bosch pump is fuel volume at WOT, Where A1000 is an overkill which is good for WOT but heating up during long trips.
 
qbnkiller

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Re: Controller for A1000 or Bosch 044 ?

I have been running my A1000 without a controller for three years now without issues. I drove it to Homecoming last year (3 hrs each way), raced it while there, and had no issues.

I run a -12 up to a Y right before the fuel rails, then -6 in/out each rail, both rails feed to the regulator, then -8 back to tank. will be upgrading it all over winter due to more power (need more fuel than an A1000 can support).
 
e95 Ty

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Re: Controller for A1000 or Bosch 044 ?

Ty 1885 said:
I run -10 to pump, -8 to regulator, stock feed line (3/8) return.
Just cant decide what is better (controler or bosch 044) ?

A1000 + Controler = 2 things that can go wrong
Bosch 044 = 1 thing that can go wrong

The only concern i have about Bosch pump is fuel volume at WOT, Where A1000 is an overkill which is good for WOT but heating up during long trips.
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Your problem looks to be the size of your return line & probably too small a reg for that pump....you could go to the 044, but not sure it will be enough for your build.

The Eliminator pump in my Ty flows 30% more than a A1000, and just like qbnkiller i have driven this truck on very long trips....most recently to the NASTE show in NJ, 700 mile round trip with no trouble at all.

All the parts of a fuel system must work together or you will have problems. You can call tech assistance at Aeromotive (913)-647-7300 option # 3, Im sure they can help you with your problem.
 
Ty 1885

Ty 1885

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Re: Controller for A1000 or Bosch 044 ?

e95 Ty said:
Your problem looks to be the size of your return line & probably too small a reg for that pump....you could go to the 044, but not sure it will be enough for your build.

The Eliminator pump in my Ty flows 30% more than a A1000, and just like qbnkiller i have driven this truck on very long trips....most recently to the NASTE show in NJ, 700 mile round trip with no trouble at all.

All the parts of a fuel system must work together or you will have problems. You can call tech assistance at Aeromotive (913)-647-7300 option # 3, Im sure they can help you with your problem.
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What reg would you sugest ?
 
e95 Ty

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Re: Controller for A1000 or Bosch 044 ?

Ty 1885 said:
What reg would you sugest ?
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I would say any reg that Aeromotive says will work with the A1000....I would still call them cause i think your return line is too small for that pump. I would say a -8 would be the smallest i would go. One of the symptoms of too small a reg or return line is overheated fuel/pump.
 
Ty 1885

Ty 1885

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Re: Controller for A1000 or Bosch 044 ?

e95 Ty said:
I would say any reg that Aeromotive says will work with the A1000....I would still call them cause i think your return line is too small for that pump. I would say a -8 would be the smallest i would go. One of the symptoms of too small a reg or return line is overheated fuel/pump.
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I just looked at Aeromotive reg for A1000 pump, the return is -6 line. I will call them tomorow, see what they say. Thanks for your help:tup:
 
Ty 1885

Ty 1885

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Re: Controller for A1000 or Bosch 044 ?

Beavis said:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AEI-13113/ ?

All the rest look like -6 returns, but would it be better to upsize with a -6 to -8 fitting and then -8 all the way back?
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-8 fittings would flow more than -6 however, the orifice in the pumps are small (-6) so putting a larger fittings on a small orifice wont help. I guess the thing to check for that NONE of the lines ( especially return ) have ANY restrictions ( collapsed lines, 90 degree turns, clogged)
 
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