cooled engine coolant through the upper IC ?

vortecfiero

New member
I hate when this happens...
I got to thinking (again)

What if we ran the heater hose from heater core to another mini rad
to finally cool it down to ambient (or close to) and then to the upper ic ?

sounds too simple

craig
 

2kwik4u

Resident slow guy
Re: cooled engine coolant through the upper IC ?

Thats ALOT of heat to be removing, and ALOT of plumbing to be working with......although I suppose it would work, but that seems to equal or exceed the complication of the stock setup.......

ALTHOUGH....You have a VERY different engine bay layout......SO.....I think in all reality you would probably see the best gains from continuing to run no intercooler (or an A2A of some sort, although I have no idea how you would package that), and going with an alchy injection setup of some sort. I know some fo the Sy/Ty guys have done completely away with the stock intercooler,and run just alchy with good results.
 

blk00z28

Forced to by choice
Re: cooled engine coolant through the upper IC ?

A2A with Alky or Meth would work better, and probably be trouble free. Unlike all this extra work.
 

'JustDreamin'

Dream: 6LV8 Turbo Bravada
Re: cooled engine coolant through the upper IC ?

I would second the water / alcohol approach.

The problem with cooling down to ambient is that its really tough to get there. Heat only flows across a temperature differential, and the bigger the differential, the faster it flows. Small differential, small flow. For example, air at 50 degrees flowing across a radiator with 220 degree input water cools the water fairly effectively to something in the 180 degree range (fairly big temperature differential causing fairly significant heat transfer, and we're only looking for a 40 degree drop). However, if we take 90 degree air and try and cool 160 degree water to 100 degrees, the temperature differential that drives the heat transfer is much smaller (170 max / 130 min differential vs 70 max / 10 min differential) and will therefore require much much more surface area and air flow to accomplish.

I hope that made some amount of sense.

Either way, the "boost fluid" cooling method is probably simpler to install, and will likely yield better results. The down side is that you'll have an additional consumable, but you won't have all that plumbing (and its weight) to worry about.

'Dreamin'
 

blk00z28

Forced to by choice
Re: cooled engine coolant through the upper IC ?

Come to think of it. Mine goes from the IC to the factory lower, to another aftermarket lower one. In 93 degree weather during the day my IC is around 110-115. If I get caught in traffic its around 125-130.

In the morning's its around 85-95. ;)
 

bezerk

New member
Re: cooled engine coolant through the upper IC ?

how about just running your heatercore as an aux cooler, and put the fan on high?
 

supersports10

New member
Re: cooled engine coolant through the upper IC ?

bezerk said:
how about just running your heatercore as an aux cooler, and put the fan on high?

iv'e done it, and it works quite well.

i have it on the sy right now.

it is a good way to monitor your intercooler temps too.

i have it plumbed in right after the intercooler, to extract the most heat.:tup:

SS:tup:
 

sy538

New member
Re: cooled engine coolant through the upper IC ?

supersports10 said:
iv'e done it, and it works quite well.

i have it on the sy right now.

it is a good way to monitor your intercooler temps too.

i have it plumbed in right after the intercooler, to extract the most heat.
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SS
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Does it cool the IC water any more if you turn the A/C on while the temp slider is still on hot?

 

supersports10

New member
Re: cooled engine coolant through the upper IC ?

sy538 said:
Does it cool the IC water any more if you turn the A/C on while the temp slider is still on hot?


nope..... the heatercore, and the a/c core are 2 different systems.

hmmmmmm ...... you got me thinking though, about what would happen if i DID find a way to use the a/c to blow before the heatercore, and cool the charge.....hmmmmmm...

SS :cool:
 

Timbo

SyTy Stalker
Re: cooled engine coolant through the upper IC ?

supersports10 said:
nope..... the heatercore, and the a/c core are 2 different systems.

hmmmmmm ...... you got me thinking though, about what would happen if i DID find a way to use the a/c to blow before the heatercore, and cool the charge.....hmmmmmm...

SS :cool:
I think that's been discussed. But that was many years ago, before I cared enough to pay attention.
 

sy538

New member
Re: cooled engine coolant through the upper IC ?

Timbo said:
I think that's been discussed.
Yeah I remember hearing about it awhile ago. Some people thought it worked and some people thought it didn’t work. But nobody seemed to know for sure, that’s why I asked.
 

bezerk

New member
Re: cooled engine coolant through the upper IC ?

to be honest, i think the HP loss of the AC wouldn't make it good for the extra cooling it would supply.
 

Tooky

Serious about performance
Re: cooled engine coolant through the upper IC ?

Ask Keith "Typhoon #1133" about it. I am positive he did the heater core IC / AC trick. I beleive he said it worked but wasn't worth the effort. I'm sure he could tell you more if you PM/email/IM him.
 

SEL777

One of 101
Re: cooled engine coolant through the upper IC ?

interesting thread. I know I've seen a cooler that users the ac freon to cool the air but if memory serves correct it was more of a race mode only type thing. I will see if I can find the site.
 
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