Cryo headers - who's done this?

[mrweelr]

I'm planning on having my ATR headers rewelded by a reputable welder in my area (still looking for someone). I don't like some of the welds on them and would rather have the welds reinforced now before I have them coated. I'd also like to have them cryo treated if I can find someone in the Bay Area to do this. So has anyone else cryo'd their headers and how much did it cost? The goal is to prevent cracking later on. So I'm thinking: 1) reweld; 2) cryo; 3) coat with 2000F

If anyone knows a shop in the San Jose area that can do any of this, please let me know.

Thanks,

 

[kwick6]

Re: Cryo headers - who's done this?

I can get you a price for getting them coated from Swain tech, and the welding / cryo if your interested.

 

[mrweelr]

Re: Cryo headers - who's done this?

I'd be interested in a price on the welding/cryo treatment. I'm going to use a local shop for the coating. Let me know.

 

[Dr.Evil]

Re: Cryo headers - who's done this?

why would you cryo headers? I know its great for gears that take lots of abuse...

 

[crashing_sux]

Re: Cryo headers - who's done this?

I had mine Cryo'd by onecryo and then coated by Swain Tech. I had the Jet Hot on there and it cooked right off, didn't impress me at all. Now I just have to fabricate some sort of bracket for the turbo to keep them from cracking again.

 

[crashing_sux]

Re: Cryo headers - who's done this?

I cryo'd them to see if it wouldn't help relieve the stresses in them from welding to hopefully help keep them from cracking a little while longer. It was a gamble, I'll tell you in a month if it didn't work, and in two years if it worked great

 

[jwaller]

Re: Cryo headers - who's done this?

cryo should cost you about $50.

 

[mrweelr]

Re: Cryo headers - who's done this?

Wow, that's a lot cheaper than I was expecting, thanks! Is that the 2000F Swaintech on those white ATR's?

 

[NateP]

Re: Cryo headers - who's done this?

man the welding is not pretty on those ATR's... not that I could do better, just figured they'd look a little better for the $.

Nate

 

[mrweelr]

Re: Cryo headers - who's done this?

If I take close-ups of them, you'll laugh. I must have gotten the new guy the day these were made or something.

 

[crashing_sux]

Re: Cryo headers - who's done this?

Wow, that's a lot cheaper than I was expecting, thanks! Is that the 2000F Swaintech on those white ATR's?

Are you referring to my KB's? If so then as posted before, it's the Swain Tech White Lightening. http://www.swaintech.com/header.html They don't refer to it as a 2000F coating but I told them that my 2000F coating was burned off when my headers started glowing red and they told me that their stuff wouldn't burn off even if my headers got cherry red again. Said worst it would do is crack which was only cosmetic but that it wouldn't peel off or affect it's heat shielding ability.

The ugly welds on my headers near the wastegate mount is because I had a local exhaust shop tack on a couple of supports after it cracked from the weight of the wastegate.

 

[blk00z28]

Re: Cryo headers - who's done this?

I had mine Cryo'd by onecryo and then coated by Swain Tech. I had the Jet Hot on there and it cooked right off, didn't impress me at all. Now I just have to fabricate some sort of bracket for the turbo to keep them from cracking again.
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I've heard the same thing about Jet Hot's coating. Its good for mild heat, not for anything like our trucks make.

On the bracket part; Cant you just weld up 3 little solid tubes to the flange and down to the pipe? I would think this would help out alot. Dont do it at such a angle to where its impossible to bolt the turbo back on, but just enough to help the support?

 

[crashing_sux]

Re: Cryo headers - who's done this?

Not sure yet. I had read something about going to the a/c support bracket. Anything to the pipe is still going to put a lot of weight on the headers, I had three cracks on the turbo side and none on the other so the weight is definitely an issue.

 

[blk00z28]

Re: Cryo headers - who's done this?

Yeah, I was just thinking about the AC bracket. Maybe run something thick off of it, or just a whole new one somehow.

Wouldnt help those guys without AC though :lol: