Driveability issue - now wont start

blue83z

Donating Member
So, just started to drive and play with the Ty that I bought in the fall, and am working on my first SyTy driveability issue, which has now turned into a no start condition. Was driving around the block today, and when I pulled by my garage, put it in reverse, it stalled, now will not restart.

Here is what I had / driveability issues:
- Stalling whether idling at park, but most likely, when going from Park to Reverse or Drive.
- Hesitation or stumble upon acceleration
- Max boost about 5 psi, but quickly goes to 2 psi than 0.

Some basics about the truck:
- stock turbo, downpipe, injectors, etc
- O2 sensor, plugs, wires replaced in fall by previous owner.
- new vacuum lines installed in fall
- I do not own a wideband or data logging system. Not objecting to buying one, but dont have one today.


What I had done in looking to repair the driveabilty issue.
- swap chip with the stock chip from my Sy
- swap ecm and chip with known good one
- swap boost solenoid from my Sy
- replace fuel filter
- replaced coil. Note that when I pulled off the coil harness, the black harness didnt seem to fit as tight in the coil as I thought it should. Fit better in new coil. Wiggling the coil wire did not have any impact in driveability and/or starting.
- checked fuel pressure. Was a tad high (about 44 key on engine off, set to 41/42). Has accufab FPR

Seems like a few of the cases are similar to what pearl91chevy was going through recently. I am going to check spark shortly and may just pull the module out and check/replace it. I thought I would post something in the meantime. FYI, the tach does flutter when cranking. Part of me thinks its module. I see that modules sometimes create driveability issues, sometimes they just die. Sometimes they create driveability issues then die.

I will update when I check spark. Any other thoughts in the meantime?
 

KDBL1TY

Member
Re: Driveability issue - now wont start

I'm thinking ignition module. No start. Is it cranking/ turning over.
 

blue83z

Donating Member
Re: Driveability issue - now wont start

Sorry, cranks over nice. Hooked up spark tester, looked like no spark, but hard to tell, it's actually damn sunny in ohio and it's facing the sun.
Module looks new, cap looks new, rotor looks like crap. Going to replace both.
 
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gobabygo

New member
Re: Driveability issue - now wont start

Change the whole distributor. I had issues with two of my trucks. Changed module on both and still no fix. Changed whole distributor and problems solved on both.
 

KDBL1TY

Member
Re: Driveability issue - now wont start

Electrical parts usually look ok unless arcing has blackened them. Not a bad idea to change that stuff . How old r ur wires? Ty like tune ups. Good luck
 
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blue83z

Donating Member
Re: Driveability issue - now wont start

So......
Tossed a rotor and module in it. The one screw on the cap seems stripped, will not fully tighten. For shits and giggles, tried to start it. No good. Tossed a few f bombs out, then figured I would try my "better" spark tester, instead of my dad's cheap one. Had spark. Tried again to start it, and fired right up. Nothing was changed between the "wouldn't" and "would" start besides about 5 minutes.

Either the plugs were wet at first, and wouldn't work bc of that, or it's luck. I'm leaning towards the latter.

Took it for a spin around the block, didn't seem to have a hesitation, but still wouldn't boost past 5 psi. I'm ok with that for now while I figure the other gremlins out.

Leaning towards just doing entire distributor based on gobabygo, and recall a Davep post about pick up coils also. And drinking.
 

blue83z

Donating Member
Re: Driveability issue - now wont start

Electrical parts usually look ok unless arcing has blackened them. Not a bad idea to change that stuff . How old r ur wires? Ty like tune ups. Good luck

Plugs and wires were done in the fall. I have not pulled any plugs.
 

gstacky

Member
Re: Driveability issue - now wont start

Change the whole distributor. I had issues with two of my trucks. Changed module on both and still no fix. Changed whole distributor and problems solved on both.

What he said, I just went through a similar stalling issue, distributor was very corroded inside and was causing my issue, along with another member's too. Swapped with another used one I had in better condition and have been daily driving it ever since with no issues.
 

blue83z

Donating Member
Re: Driveability issue - now wont start

brand new one is only $110 from autozone. Was going to toss in a spare that I had, but it looks like a pain in the butt to replace, so will just go new.....unless recommended otherwise.
 

blue83z

Donating Member
Re: Driveability issue - now wont start

Tossed the new distributor in today. My timing light (that I have not used since y2k most likely isnt working. Hoping that my Dad's works, gotta find the brown/tan wire (Passenger side floor by firewall I believe) and set the timing from there.
Truck fired right up, but I can tell timing wasnt right.
I did find a torn silicone vacuum line. not sure if I tore it during the removal of the distributor or if it was torn previously.
Going to try to wrap up tomorrow. If its still not right, will order an aldl cable and make my first attempt at data logging.
 

Timbo

SyTy Stalker
Re: Driveability issue - now wont start

I've got an awesome timing light if you need it.
 

blue83z

Donating Member
Re: Driveability issue - now wont start

My dad came by this afternoon with his timing light. He bought it on the way home in his first new car, a 65 Mustang. Said he believes that he picked it up on the way home. With that, its 50 years old lol. No inductive pick up, has a spring that goes on the plug, boot, and has a large alligator type clip that goes on the spring.

tried to set it today, disconnected the tan wire under the dash, for some reason, the check engine light doesnt come on. (I didnt think until now to see if it works at all).
Set to 0 degrees, I believe, but truck runs like shit. Im thinking I screwed something up. Smooth engine when you first start it, but as it comes down from fast idle, gets pretty rough.
 

blue83z

Donating Member
Re: Driveability issue - now wont start

Yes, I double checked it just now.

And on the check engine light not coming on....I believe the bulb is bad. Doesn't come on with key on.
 
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