Fluids?

[BOBA]

Okay, this should be easy.

Does anyone have a list of all needed fluid types/brands that should be used.

I'm replacing EVERYTHING this week, and want to make sure it's right. And when I say everything, I mean it, oil, coolant, trans fluid, brake fluid, diff. fluid, and even the washer fluid(it looks like someone hocked a loogie in it).

It's been sitting a while and want to make sure everything is up to par.

If it isn't already(I didn't see it), this list may be a good sticky.

 

[syntax]

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tranny : Dexron 3/mercron equivlent stay away from mobil one synthetic
engine : Mobil one syn 10/30
brake : Dot3 gm
coolant : Your choice just keep it green stay away from the new gm orange
transfer case : same as tranny

 

[typhooey]

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im using the new dexcool, and it works just fine, motor stays nice and cool.

 

[blk00z28]

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coolant : Your choice just keep it green stay away from the new gm orange

The reason why?

 

[Ian Turgeon]

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theres been some speculation as to it causing heater core related problems.

 

[dgoodhue]

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The orange fluid (dexcool if I remember right) can't be mixed with green antifreeze at all, the whole cooling system need to be drained and flushed with water. Once you goto the orange stuff you can't go back either. Their maybe other issues.

I use redline synthetic through my Engine/T-Case/F&R differentials. I left the normal Dino ATF in my tranny, which had been flushed and has nice red tranny fluid (low low miles, looks cleaner than the 5K mile oil in my Corvette's tranny).

 

[typhooey]

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The reason why?

I guess ill find out the hard way if something goes wrong,the reason why I use it is because I changed it in all my cars and trucks and never had any problems.

 

[crashing_sux]

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Is the orange coolant the stuff that contains no water and won't corrode your block?

 

[typhooey]

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actually you can add water but I choose not to due to that reason,just strickly orange!

 

[GarnetTy1473]

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Dexcool is also thought to be the culprit behind the intake gaskets leaking on just about every newer GM vehicle. We do intake gaskets like crazy here, and we're not even a GM dealer. Just about every used GM car we have come through here needs them, especially the 3.4L V6.

 

[Loeryder]

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www.sytyauthority.net
maintenance section is pretty thorough.

 

[Tydriver]

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The orange fluid (dexcool if I remember right) can't be mixed with green antifreeze at all, the whole cooling system need to be drained and flushed with water. Once you goto the orange stuff you can't go back either. Their maybe other issues.

Ummm.. WRONG..

BTDT

Just flush the entire system with water out when going to completely switch over before draining and adding new coolant back in..

Most of the issues with the Orange stuff is people not completely flushing out the block/lines/heater core etc before installing the replacement coolant (going to either green OR orange). The 2 coolants are NOT happy mixing together at all. However if the system is completely flushed out and drained then the replacement coolant can be added just fine.. Did it on my Ty as well as a couple of other cars..

I didnt see any increase in cooling so I wouldnt see the benefits to switching over from green to orange if your vehicle was originally intended for green tho. The newer Gen3 motor stuff requires the orange because of the issue with increased aluminum content in the engine, its supposed to be more friendly to the different metals.

 

[bezerk]

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don;t know if that orange stuff is the same as we use in our workshop.

can''t be mixed with blue, because in winter you can't measure at which temp. it''s going to freeze.
teh orange stuff is a whole lot cheaper.
it''s a bionic(*) based product
we never had problems with people mixing it, besides not being able to gauge it.



*(educate me, if you use a different name for that over in the USA)

 

[dgoodhue]

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Ummm.. WRONG..

BTDT

Just flush the entire system with water out when going to completely switch over before draining and adding new coolant back in..

Most of the issues with the Orange stuff is people not completely flushing out the block/lines/heater core etc before installing the replacement coolant (going to either green OR orange). The 2 coolants are NOT happy mixing together at all. However if the system is completely flushed out and drained then the replacement coolant can be added just fine.. Did it on my Ty as well as a couple of other cars.

Hey, Give me some credit, I was only wrong about 'not being able to go back'. A GM mechanic told me that... I really don't trust most mechanics anyways. :tdown:

 

[Tydriver]

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Sorry, no intending to offend.. I dont trust most of the mechanics at the dealers anyhow.. Most are NOT enthusiasts, they are just punch the time clock to pay the bills.. All I meant was.. I have done it and I know it can be done.

 

[syntax]

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The reason i say dont use the orange is because it has little to no benfits over the tried and true green stuff our trucks came with and ive heard alot of horror stories about heater cores and gaskets being eaten by the orange stuff, it also has a tendency to turn to mud when exposed to air for long periods of time. Even if you are lucky enough to get away with the orange stuff, why take the chance, the green stuff has proven itself 100 times over.

 

[dgoodhue]

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Sorry, no intending to offend..

No offense taken :tup:

 

[crashing_sux]

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The reason i say dont use the orange is because it has little to no benfits over the tried and true green stuff our trucks came with and ive heard alot of horror stories about heater cores and gaskets being eaten by the orange stuff, it also has a tendency to turn to mud when exposed to air for long periods of time. Even if you are lucky enough to get away with the orange stuff, why take the chance, the green stuff has proven itself 100 times over.

The green stuff has proven to corrode the inside of your block from what I've seen. I'm not sure if it was the orange or something else but I was reading about an aftermarket coolant on turbobuick.net that didn't contain any water and didn't corrode your block, since I'm having a new engine put together I figured it'd be the way to go, but if it's going to give me heater core problems then maybe not....

 

[typhooey]

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The green stuff has proven to corrode the inside of your block from what I've seen. I'm not sure if it was the orange or something else but I was reading about an aftermarket coolant on turbobuick.net that didn't contain any water and didn't corrode your block, since I'm having a new engine put together I figured it'd be the way to go, but if it's going to give me heater core problems then maybe not....

thats why I put it in with the new motor, as far as the heater core im not worried at all its cheaper then the motor.

 

[NecroWolf]

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ya know i seen a guy mix the green and the orange, and i was really glad i hadn't done it. it all turned into an orangish mud. he ended up changing out his radiator and flushing his block. i got a good laugh out of it.