Forged Prices?

SeattleSy#1255

SeattleSy#1255

Category 5 Conservative
First off, my intent isn't to piss anyone off. My question is simple, and you are welcome to call me ignorant, but I really don't know the answer(s), so I must ask:

Why are forged shortblock builds so highly priced for our vehicles? Literally two time's what is would cost for something like an ls1 or ls6, with less potential. Just curious.
 
SeattleSy#1255

SeattleSy#1255

Category 5 Conservative
Re: Forged Prices?

GM TURBO said:
Supply and demand. How many SyTy's are on the road? How many L*1 cars are on the road?
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I see...so shops are making more money off syty's vs. an ls1?
 
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hrodgmc

New member
Re: Forged Prices?

Less Demand = More expensive parts.
Less Supply (Forged/Billet Cranks) = More expensive parts.

We are looking at a market that is dwindling. Kenne Bell, I don't think even sells much sy/ty stuff anymore. RPM, McCOy, Scott,Hood, E-Rue, Waller and a few others are all who support this elite "group" As we all know, not just everyone can work on these machines.


Look at the LS* market, it is flooded with vendors marketing for the budget minded racers. Recently, Lingenfelter was selling a forged shortblock for 2800+ core . 5 years ago, you were lucky to get a fully machined stroker block with an average quality crank for less than 3K.
 
myclone

myclone

Donating Member
Re: Forged Prices?

SeattleSy#1255 said:
I see...so shops are making more money off syty's vs. an ls1?
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While there are a few ppl making a killing off of syty stuff I think youre misunderstanding what Dave is saying.

A shop has to make money to stay in business so if theyre selling LS1 parts they potentially have a huge customer base and can survive on a smaller profit margin due to the larger volume of sales. With sytys the customer base is MUCH smaller so they would have to make more money off of each sale to net the same income as cheaper LS1 parts...hence higher prices for syty stuff.
 
jwaller

jwaller

Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
Re: Forged Prices?

SeattleSy#1255 said:
I see...so shops are making more money off syty's vs. an ls1?
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I can't and don't speak for everybody but, I don't see anybody getting rich off of the syty market, most of us that are in this deal are here bc we love these trucks and want to help others as much as possible. As you can tell several of the vendors that were around just a few yrs ago have since disappered due to a host of nefarious reasons.
 
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GM TURBO

Sell Out
Re: Forged Prices?

jwaller said:
I can't and don't speak for everybody but, I don't see anybody getting rich off of the syty market, most of us that are in this deal are here bc we love these ...trucks and want to help others as much as possible. As you can tell several of the vendors that were around just a few yrs ago have since disappered due to a host of ...nefarious reasons.
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The thing that you have to keep in mind is all the good vendors are people who own these pigs. There are people making money off the goods and services they provide - but most of it is side work. There are very few who are doing this fulltime.
 
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GM TURBO

Sell Out
Re: Forged Prices?

How many high HP 4.3 apps do you know of?

I'm not saying they don't exist - but most will go with a SBC.
 
90stangGT

90stangGT

Cobra member
Re: Forged Prices?

The only part that would cost you a limb in a shortblock is a forged crank, other than that, the parts are priced nearly the same as and other application.
 
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100in6

100in6
Re: Forged Prices?

if you want to know how easy it is to buy a stroked forged crank for a 4.3 block, just go out and try to find one. then do the same thing with a sbc. everybody has sbc cranks... you'll be pressed to find one for a v6
 
SeattleSy#1255

SeattleSy#1255

Category 5 Conservative
Re: Forged Prices?

100in6 said:
if you want to know how easy it is to buy a stroked forged crank for a 4.3 block, just go out and try to find one. then do the same thing with a sbc. everybody has sbc cranks... you'll be pressed to find one for a v6
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i hear ya Les, I actually did that exact research...i came to the conclusion that instead of building a syty, i'd build a c-5 that would smoke it for less money. Don't get me wrong, i'm not ripping anyone here and I fully understand now the price thing, but short of the rarity thing and blowing doors off most people for the first 1/8 mile, I can get more for less going other routes. I know this is nothing new, just thought i'd see what other thought. No need for anyone to get pissed, I love these thing just as much as the next guy, but when your pockets aren't fat and you want to go fast, there are better platforms.

Hope your doing well Les!
 
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