GN te-44 turbo?

7YPH00N

New member
I know a guy with a Grand National. Hes selling his te-44 to go bigger. My question...since i am new to this is will it fit? If not what would i need for it to fit?
Thanks all.

J.ohn
 

Tooky

Serious about performance
Sorry but I beleive the answer is no, the GNs have a different type of downpipe and wastegate and their mounting bolts may also be different. There might be a way to make it work but I don't know what it is.
 

bdubb

I am teh kingpin!
3-4 bolt adapator from ATR, and a external wastegate, and a custom flange & downpipe setup, run a new oil line and block off some water lines.
 

7YPH00N

New member
Is it worth the effort? He wants i believe 400 for his. Kept in very good shape (i know him) How much is the adaptor? I cant view the online ATR catalog. Thanks again for your help.

J.ohn
 

bdubb

I am teh kingpin!
well the leaking adaptor isnt listed. you have to call them and BS your way to get one. just to let u know, they suck and they leak.... your best bet would be sending it to Pt&e and having a syty housing machined up to it and you can use there exhaust housing and downpipe and wg setup.


but most likely it will cost the same as there turbo kit.... plus ud still needs lines and such...
 

7YPH00N

New member
So your saying i should just buy the 1500$ kit they have instead? Sounds alot easier as well for a new born to turbos like me. Just alot more money. Thanks alot bdubb.

J.ohn
 

Tooky

Serious about performance
If you only want a small, mild upgrade over the stock turbo, you could look at the Mitsubishi 20G... there's a couple different exhaust housings you can get, up to 14cm2. Bolts right in place of the stock 17c turbo and almost looks the same, just about 100 extra CFM. Last I heard they cost $900 or less.

The PTE turbos are a lot more serious but cost more $ and you have to run them on a 50# chip because they have a high pressure 15# wastegate actuator, if you use them on a stock injector chip calibrated for stock turbos, it will have poor boost control, I was told. So once you get the PTE you are gonna need a torque converter and 50# injectors and 50# Ultimate chip. Now you're talking about 3 grand for the package. With the 20G you can keep stock torque converter if you get one of the small exhaust housings (Something like 8, 10, or 12cm2 but not the 14cm2) and it will not lag too badly. If you got the most common 20G, the 20G-14cm2, then you're gonna have some worse turbo lag and you'd need a torque converter just like with the PTE. So it's all really in how fast do you wanna spend? :) Also keep the future in mind... you don't want to save $ and buy the 20G today and then 2 months later you want to run high 11s and now your 20G is useless.
 

kwick6

Donating Member
This is all my opinion. :eek:
1. get a stock hybrid built
2. 20g
3. PTE

1. This allows your truck to stay very close to stock and still improve performance. I would recommend this if your truck is a daily driver.
You won't require bigger injectors, converter, new air intake setup, etc.
2. You can still use stock injectors, downpipe. It doesn't require a lot of changes, and if you don't go with the larger (14cm2) housing you won't need a converter.
3. This is where you choose the turbo that will support your goals if they are over 500 hp. You will likely have done heads, injectors, cam, converter, built tranny, etc.

I am sure plenty of us would like to just go all out and do a full rebuild and choose a huge turbo, buy FAST engine management and have a insane fast truck. It isn't cheap, and unless you have several thousands to spend, than your truck will for the most part always be in between stages of development. :wink: I've even talked with a couple people that *do* have the cash to do all the insane stuff to their trucks, and guess what they are waiting also, and have been waiting a long time.
Choose a mild turbo, either #1 or #2 above and throw it on. I wouldn't bother with this 44 as you can run into problems. I have a 44 on my truck but it has a four bolt housing and an adapter to the stock downpipe. If you want to know more about my setup email me and I'll explain it.

Later,
Scott
 
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