category 5 syclone
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If anyone needs custom stainless headers in south east MI let me know only $900. I hate to see people running those cheap atr or kenne bell headers.
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93 TY 2185
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I'm near Ann Arbor
Where in Michigan are you?category 5 syclone said:
I'm near Ann Arbor
Loeryder
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I agree, get together some pics and specs.
With ATR out of the picture and KBs header never were worth a crap it is an open market.
RPM will pretty much have it all to himself at $1200+ a set.
Personally I dont ever see my build requiring them.
I will just port match the stockers and have them ceramic coated.
OEM manifolds have gone well into the 10's.
I agree, get together some pics and specs.
With ATR out of the picture and KBs header never were worth a crap it is an open market.
RPM will pretty much have it all to himself at $1200+ a set.
Personally I dont ever see my build requiring them.
I will just port match the stockers and have them ceramic coated.
OEM manifolds have gone well into the 10's.
Syborg Twin Turbo
Syborg Twin Turbo
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should of had a v8
should of had a v8
James Thomas
"NO CLASS"
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With the thermo coatings available today and there success, I would be interested in a set of made of mild steel tube as they will be coated inside and out (a lot of the SS ones end up coated any way). What would the price difference be from Stainless to mild steel?
Yea, more specs and photo's would be good. They "other guy" that suggested a $1200.00 price must work for R.P.M. :rotf: . Seriously though, I know a lot of the guys have been holding of on "new" headers including me do to the high cost and the fact that our trucks can go really fast without them. I bet that if your cost was real reasonable on mild steel that you could sell more sets and make it up in volume? Just my :2cents:
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James Thomas
category 5 syclone said:
With the thermo coatings available today and there success, I would be interested in a set of made of mild steel tube as they will be coated inside and out (a lot of the SS ones end up coated any way). What would the price difference be from Stainless to mild steel?
Yea, more specs and photo's would be good. They "other guy" that suggested a $1200.00 price must work for R.P.M. :rotf: . Seriously though, I know a lot of the guys have been holding of on "new" headers including me do to the high cost and the fact that our trucks can go really fast without them. I bet that if your cost was real reasonable on mild steel that you could sell more sets and make it up in volume? Just my :2cents:
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James Thomas
qbnkiller
Conflaguration Specialist
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I agree with James Thomas..if it were available in mild steel, I'd coat them and be done with it!
Seriously, if you can do it, you'd get a few sets sold here.
LMK...I am about to put the engine back in within 2 weeks..I can definitely do it then, and I am also in Michigan...
I agree with James Thomas..if it were available in mild steel, I'd coat them and be done with it!
Seriously, if you can do it, you'd get a few sets sold here.
LMK...I am about to put the engine back in within 2 weeks..I can definitely do it then, and I am also in Michigan...
Syborg Twin Turbo
Syborg Twin Turbo
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my x-wife also carried
my x-wife also carried
James Thomas
"NO CLASS"
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Sorry, forgot to say my Ex's lawyer was interested also :rotf: !
Hey Marty, got a call from the shipping company today. They were asking the standard dumb ass questions and finally got around to the fact that if if the estimate to repair the damage was 1,700.00 or more they would total it and cut me a check for 1,900.00 :rotf: !
After a rather long explaination of what a Typhoon is and that I would apply my legal right to an exact replacement and there would be no cash settlement, I was told that some one would call me back. All of about 15 minutes later I get a call from a "Senoir Claims Adjuster" who tells me they will not be totaling my Ty and they hope to have an anwser as to their course of repair action early next week. Oh damn....thread jacking. I hate it when that happens, uh er yea lets get some more info on these headers!
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James Thomas
Syborg Twin Turbo said:
Sorry, forgot to say my Ex's lawyer was interested also :rotf: !
Hey Marty, got a call from the shipping company today. They were asking the standard dumb ass questions and finally got around to the fact that if if the estimate to repair the damage was 1,700.00 or more they would total it and cut me a check for 1,900.00 :rotf: !
After a rather long explaination of what a Typhoon is and that I would apply my legal right to an exact replacement and there would be no cash settlement, I was told that some one would call me back. All of about 15 minutes later I get a call from a "Senoir Claims Adjuster" who tells me they will not be totaling my Ty and they hope to have an anwser as to their course of repair action early next week. Oh damn....thread jacking. I hate it when that happens, uh er yea lets get some more info on these headers!
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cloneman315
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pics
pics
Loeryder
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Seriously though, maybe I am just quoting what Mike has already posted...
I have no affiliation, just pointing out the only syty vendor left that offers them.
Probably another reason why they are $$$$$$$$$$.
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34921&highlight=headers
If you actually read MIkes thread on his headers you would find out:
So much for trying to help out with some info. Open mouth insert spoon. geeesh.... :roll:
James Thomas said:
Seriously though, maybe I am just quoting what Mike has already posted...
I have no affiliation, just pointing out the only syty vendor left that offers them.
Probably another reason why they are $$$$$$$$$$.
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34921&highlight=headers
If you actually read MIkes thread on his headers you would find out:
So much for trying to help out with some info. Open mouth insert spoon. geeesh.... :roll:
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hang out a few more months guys. the guy that fabbed up ed hess's headers is make us some as we speak.
hang out a few more months guys. the guy that fabbed up ed hess's headers is make us some as we speak.
James Thomas
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Hey Loeryder don't take it the wrong way, I was just joking! Honestly I was just scanning through the posts and didn't even notice who it was that posted, that's why I said "the guy that said". Mike has quaility stuff and there is no questioning that at all. Only thing I am looking at is cost. Mike's product has some features that I don't need that add to cost. V flanges and the like. I don't need headers with "zippers" on them cause they won't be on and off every other week etc. Just a good solid, no frills, decent flowing, mild steel header
that fits and doesen't fry every thing under the hood.
I personally don't need or even want stainless cause like I said, they will be coated any way. I will also give up some frills for better prices as I am sure most other guys would too.
So It takes an extra 30 min. or even an hour to install or remove. How much is my time worth? Hmmm. $500 to $900 vs. $1,500 plus, that is a lot of install time at $40 - $50 bucks an hour! Fit & performance is the important thing. It's like the difference between a set of Hookers for $350 or a set of Morrisons $1500. Just not worth it TO ME.
If some one comes up with a decent set of Mild steel headers for 500 - 750 bucks Im in!
If not in the next month or so, then I will have my fabricator at my shop in Manila do them. I e-mailed 22 pic's of the KB and ATR's to him two weeks ago before this thread even started and he told me that we should be able to do it for around $400 total and that includes me paying his salary for flow bench time. Nothing fancy just decent flow, fit and quaility. Coating, shipping customs etc. should put them on my Ty in the $500 - $750 range I mentioned above. If it was going to cost me more then it would not be worth it do it, I'd just buy some for $900 and be done with it but there is some really good profit to be had for some of these SyTy parts. I know cause I have been costing some of this stuff out to have it made in my shop vs. spending $700 plus for a used set of headers (cracks at no additional charge!) or a used ATR I/C for $600 as an example.
I will be at my Manila facility on the 16th and one of my engineer's and fabricater's are supposed to have a C.A.D. and mock up ready when I get there so I see how it looks and If it looks good then I will have a prototype done and we will flow test it and go from there? I may get lucky and find a Sy for $2,200 (or less) on this trip like my Ty then I can just leave it there for testing! I have a lead on a "small ugly black American GMC truck that used to spin all four tires and be real fast" down in Subic Bay :lol: .
Sooooo..... Remove spoon and smile
! It was a joke and I will apologize by saying that the TCS 9/11 3000 stall I got from you turned out real nice :tup: ! No offence ment!
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James R. Thomas
Windsock Inc.
Island Cycle & Performance
Marianas Motor Sports
Loeryder said:
Hey Loeryder don't take it the wrong way, I was just joking! Honestly I was just scanning through the posts and didn't even notice who it was that posted, that's why I said "the guy that said". Mike has quaility stuff and there is no questioning that at all. Only thing I am looking at is cost. Mike's product has some features that I don't need that add to cost. V flanges and the like. I don't need headers with "zippers" on them cause they won't be on and off every other week etc. Just a good solid, no frills, decent flowing, mild steel header
that fits and doesen't fry every thing under the hood.
I personally don't need or even want stainless cause like I said, they will be coated any way. I will also give up some frills for better prices as I am sure most other guys would too.
So It takes an extra 30 min. or even an hour to install or remove. How much is my time worth? Hmmm. $500 to $900 vs. $1,500 plus, that is a lot of install time at $40 - $50 bucks an hour! Fit & performance is the important thing. It's like the difference between a set of Hookers for $350 or a set of Morrisons $1500. Just not worth it TO ME.
If some one comes up with a decent set of Mild steel headers for 500 - 750 bucks Im in!
If not in the next month or so, then I will have my fabricator at my shop in Manila do them. I e-mailed 22 pic's of the KB and ATR's to him two weeks ago before this thread even started and he told me that we should be able to do it for around $400 total and that includes me paying his salary for flow bench time. Nothing fancy just decent flow, fit and quaility. Coating, shipping customs etc. should put them on my Ty in the $500 - $750 range I mentioned above. If it was going to cost me more then it would not be worth it do it, I'd just buy some for $900 and be done with it but there is some really good profit to be had for some of these SyTy parts. I know cause I have been costing some of this stuff out to have it made in my shop vs. spending $700 plus for a used set of headers (cracks at no additional charge!) or a used ATR I/C for $600 as an example.
I will be at my Manila facility on the 16th and one of my engineer's and fabricater's are supposed to have a C.A.D. and mock up ready when I get there so I see how it looks and If it looks good then I will have a prototype done and we will flow test it and go from there? I may get lucky and find a Sy for $2,200 (or less) on this trip like my Ty then I can just leave it there for testing! I have a lead on a "small ugly black American GMC truck that used to spin all four tires and be real fast" down in Subic Bay :lol: .
Sooooo..... Remove spoon and smile
! It was a joke and I will apologize by saying that the TCS 9/11 3000 stall I got from you turned out real nice :tup: ! No offence ment! _________________________
James R. Thomas
Windsock Inc.
Island Cycle & Performance
Marianas Motor Sports
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