How to run cooler?

cameronsclone

New member
I am trying to make it run as cool as possible without alky or A2A. Right now I have an ATR upper and aux lower, shurflo pump, no metal lines, elec fan wired to ign along with pump, and water and water wetter in both systems. Once i get in stop and go or sit for more than a few minutes, it gets hotter than I want it to. What could I do to improve it? I was thinking small fans on cche, but would a pusher or dual pullers in the engine compartment be good too?
 

Daryl H

Donating Member
Re: How to run cooler?

Have you watched the show "Ice Road Truckers" on the Discovery channel?
 

Ross L

Member
Re: How to run cooler?

maybe a scoop and fan. Looks like you've done about all you can other than adding a tank in the bed filled with ice water :D I've been wondering if the ATR upper could actually "hurt" temps due to the size(holds more "hot" water,takes longer to "cool" back down), unless you had a much larger aux cooler(or tank) that would hold 4x the coolant of the stock system. IMO a ideal set-up would be a "small" upper with good flow, a large lower, a good pump and a 4-6 gal aux tank(I won't drill holes in my bed so there goes that idea) Just my opinion of course. Mines all stock.
 

blk00z28

Forced to by choice
Re: How to run cooler?

cameronsclone said:
I have an ATR upper and aux lower, shurflo pump, no metal lines, elec fan wired to ign along with pump, and water and water wetter in both systems. Once i get in stop and go or sit for more than a few minutes, it gets hotter than I want it to. What could I do to improve it? I was thinking small fans on cche, but would a pusher or dual pullers in the engine compartment be good too?

The bold parts in your post have me scratching my head. What fans do you have wired in if not for the lower? And how hot is it getting, and what is the temp of both the IC, and the air outside?

On a 95 degree day, with me just sitting in traffic my IC would sit around 135. Thats with the fans on all the time on the lower. Once I started moving it would drop the temp to about 120 or so.
 

JKsSyclone

Active member
Re: How to run cooler?

I made a ice tank that mounts behind the rear wheel under the bed. It plumbs into the system and it works really well. The IC will get condensation on it. I’ve seen people use igloo coolers, fuel cells and other stuff.
 

Ross L

Member
Re: How to run cooler?

Joe, can you give more details of your system? How easy is access for ice? Very interested :D
Ross
 

SYO237

SyTy Registry
Re: How to run cooler?

im confused. why are you concerned that much about temp in stop n go? the system is naturally going to heat soak as you sit with minimal airflow. even if you had alky or an A2A, its not going to help lower temps when your slowly rolling in traffic. the only advantage with A2A is when you finally get moving, it'll take less time for temps to drop. Alky is sprayed during boost...not for normal driving conditions.

whats your temps when you actually are driving or racing? just like Tim, back when I had water/air i was seeing temps in the 130-140 range during the hot months in stop n go and around 110-117 while driving during the day. Florida summer = hot and humid

seems to me if your temps are good when you are cruising or racing, then i wouldnt add anymore crap. adding fans will gain you a few degrees cooler if you want them while sitting in traffic just to have air movement, but i just dont see the value since your not going to be in the gas during traffic.

if you want to add fans to something, add a cooler for the trans and cool that instead.
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SY2455

70's Veteran
Re: How to run cooler?

cameronsclone said:
I am trying to make it run as cool as possible without alky or A2A. Right now I have an ATR upper and aux lower, shurflo pump, no metal lines, elec fan wired to ign along with pump, and water and water wetter in both systems. Once i get in stop and go or sit for more than a few minutes, it gets hotter than I want it to. What could I do to improve it? I was thinking small fans on cche, but would a pusher or dual pullers in the engine compartment be good too?

After you try the small fans on the cche. If you are really serious you can do the following, but i'm not sure how it would affect your defroster. Go from the outlet side of the intercooler to the inlet side of the heater, then from the outlet side of the heater to your other stuff. You can use the heater fan speed to lower the temp more.
 

cameronsclone

New member
Re: How to run cooler?

It runs mid 110s and 120s when driving normally with barely any traffic. My temp gauge in the truck always reads under the 1/4 unless I get into boost a lot or stop moving. But once I get into rush hour or any slow or dead stopped traffic it goes into 140s and 150s. It doesn't seem to get hot when i have airflow, just when I'm stopped I have no air circulating in the system. I guess fans are the only way to help that problem. I have no clutch fan, just a high flow elec fan always on with a/c power, same as the pump.
 

Deanzsyclone

New member
Re: How to run cooler?

cameronsclone said:
It runs mid 110s and 120s when driving normally with barely any traffic. My temp gauge in the truck always reads under the 1/4 unless I get into boost a lot or stop moving. But once I get into rush hour or any slow or dead stopped traffic it goes into 140s and 150s. It doesn't seem to get hot when i have airflow, just when I'm stopped I have no air circulating in the system. I guess fans are the only way to help that problem. I have no clutch fan, just a high flow elec fan always on with a/c power, same as the pump.

Well don't forget, you allso have VERY little airflow INTO the engine at idle/low speed, soooo... it's very hard to combat the engines own natural heat with such little airflow into the engine during stop and go traffic, but of course when your cruising along... 50 70mph the engine is sucking in a much larger volume of that cooler air, making it easier to combat the engines natural heat soak, not to mention the engine compartment is now pushing cool air through it versus simply sitting and idling/low speed movement with heat building under the hood.
 
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