I ordered the pontiacs........

nightdiver

Active member
I have to share this
I called Mike and ordered the heads and intake etc.
They flow 320 cfm...just what i wanted
Next years project is a steel stroker :p
 

SeattleSy#1255

Category 5 Conservative
can you tell me a bit about them...i'm still learning here...differance/advantages vs. disadvantages vs. vortecs, L35's etc.

Thanks!
 

smeagol

Active member
peeps have to decide what type of build they want. When you step up to the plate and go with Pontiacs, or Bowtie heads, or any max effort aluminum head... I generally look at that as a step past any Vortec head buildup. Both financially, and power levels. With Pontiacs, you are looking at custom headers, or modded KB headers. You need a carb style intake, meaning more work, parts & fabrication (carb to throttle body adapter, EFI adaptation, custom fuel rails, intercooler pipe change). Your heads are going to be geared towards higher RPM than any stock/L35/Vortec head, meaning you better have a high RPM cam (higher lift/duration, possibly solid roller), and a bottom end that can support that power/RPM level. Then a turbo that can support that airflow, a stall converter to match, and a fuel system to support that airflow, etc etc. You can see how this builds and builds. An issue I ran into was that I was going to do a buildup with Pontiacs, but the set I had were massively hogged out, by ASA engine builders. That is only going to hurt bottom end, and help top end (in the right build). It wasn't what I was after. I think highly of the Pontiac heads, but they aren't for everyone ;)

I see Vortecs as the ultimate head for a bang for the buck, very mild buildup. Don't get me wrong, I think they will support 700-800hp when pushed to the limit, but they are not the head I'd use if I was going to spin to 7000rpm, or shooting for 1000hp. I wouldn't use a monster cam in a Vortec build (I think someone already proved this is a bad idea, losing 13mph + in the 1/4 in the process of "upgrading")

Anyways, the point, as always, is to think out your combinations, lest you be left with an expensive 13 second pig of a truck. You don't have to *copy* someone's build, but you need to look at what has worked, and what has *not* worked.
 

FLSY2730

New member
I see, to bad rob(RACCR) did not finish his truck, wasn't he going to spin that motor to 7000-8000 using bowties and a huge duration cam and low boost? :eek:
Wonder who he sold the motor to and if they got it running?
 

smeagol

Active member
His entire buildup was designed differently, and was well thought out IMO.

He ported his heads, flowed 'em, and knew what would work
He had a non lockup converter that would stall a bit higher, and use a higher RPM band
He had a turbo setup for higher RPM power (big exhaust side)
Serious fuel system (Weldon)


I'm curious to see how it'd work out. I'm more a fan of high boost, low RPM stuff than Rob, but it's apparent he put some time & effort into it and knew his stuff.
 
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