IC pump placement???? Please vote

[SonomaGTlover]

Well, search revealed this thread
http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=18998&highlight=intercooler+pump+direction
and I understnd which is inlet/outlet etc. etc.

I have a secondary cooler behind the grill and a ShurFlow (sp) pump. Yes, the large one so i doubt I'll be relying on gravity for circulation, it has a sucking action as bench tested.

I'm interestedin ideas of where I should break the system to install the pump. I'll check the poll for my decision and listen to all comments of opinion.

Thanks for the help guys

 

[turbodog]

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IMO, From a pumping performance point of view, a positive-displacement pump doesn't care. So, look to optimize other things, like noise isolation, isolation from excessive heat, protection from rain, convenient hose routing, etc.

 

[SonomaGTlover]

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That's kind of what I was after but it wold have been nice to have a few more opinions.
Thanks TurboDog ! I assume thats your vote as well... that will be the most convenient
placement so I'm going for it.

 

[Black Knight]

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Is that Shuflo pump from the archieves still what people seem to be using ( I need a new pump) and what was that special coolant that people were using, was it called i.c.e. maybe??

 

[SY2455]

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I would install it after all the heat exchanger's pushing the water up to the intercooler. Just make sure the pump is at the lowest point in the system.

 

[Black Knight]

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I would install it after all the heat exchanger's pushing the water up to the intercooler. Just make sure the pump is at the lowest point in the system.

Isnt that how its set up from the factory? So just keep it the same right? OK what pump do you use?

 

[TYRODD]

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I would install it after all the heat exchanger's pushing the water up to the intercooler. Just make sure the pump is at the lowest point in the system.

Yep! Not to mention that you want to keep the pump cool; run it after the heat exchangers. :tup:

 

[SonomaGTlover]

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I got it installed the other day.
I put it in the factory location eventhough it's much bigger. It seems to be doing just fine but I had a hard time finding the correct size barbed fittings for it. I had to adapt the NPT size first then put the hose fitting in. I'll probably take it all back out and replace it with a new/cleaner look in the near future. I just eeded the system to work for now.

Since I'm on the subject... can I use 1/2 heater hose for the IC when I replace it? It would be much easier to connect the pump if it's not too small. It has 5/8 on it now. From what I gather it has a fairly slow flow rate anyway and it might speed it up a bit. I have the ATR auxillary cooler behind the grill for extra cooling.

 

[Robert Lone]

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Since I'm on the subject... can I use 1/2 heater hose for the IC when I replace it? It would be much easier to connect the pump if it's not too small. It has 5/8 on it now. From what I gather it has a fairly slow flow rate anyway and it might speed it up a bit. I have the ATR auxillary cooler behind the grill for extra cooling.

I don't see why not.:2cents:

I would think the 0.125" smaller hose would slow the overall flow a bit and only the speed at which the coolant flows through the hose would increase.

 

[SonomaGTlover]

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Yea, that's what I meant... the flow would be at a faster pace but the same GPH flow rate. Same amount of fluid through a smaller hose.

 

[Black Knight]

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Yep! Not to mention that you want to keep the pump cool; run it after the heat exchangers. :tup:

I guess i dont understand what you mean, doesnt the factory pump run after the heat exchangers? It pumps cold fluid to the top port on upper cooler, it cools the air then goes out the bottom port on upper ic goes to the upper left connection on lower ic if your lookin at the pump side, then gets cooled comes out lower right on lower ic and goes again or am I mistaken?

What pump, what coolant?

 

[bjk_typhoon]

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Here is where I put mine.

Under the front drivers side wheel well. It's the lowest point in the system

 

[dirtdemon]

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mine is in stock position, like the article on www.sytyarchives.com - using a flowjet-pump (does lil faster than the shurflo, at same size) - used 1 year (hotwired) and no probs yet :tup:

it's a lil noisy , but : who cares ?

my :2cents:

 

[Black Knight]

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I went to 4, YES 4 marine and rv places today only 1 carried pumps, so im lookin at them and the guy comes over an trys to help and I tell him what Im doing and he looks in his book, I used the part # from the archieves which is no good anymore, so then he trys to cross refrence it to something newer and it dont work, by then people are lined up behind me and he starts freakin out tryin to rush me through. Like I give a $hit if people are waiting my money is green, kinda. anyway then he starts being a real prick and gives up and just says "Im not a mechanic, we dont work on cars just boats I cant help you anymore, next person please!" I was dumbfounded. If I had been in a bad mood I probabley would have just kept standing there and made a seen or broke his nose, but I wasnt really that mad, suprisingly.

 

[TYRODD]

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I guess i dont understand what you mean, doesnt the factory pump run after the heat exchangers? It pumps cold fluid to the top port on upper cooler, it cools the air then goes out the bottom port on upper ic goes to the upper left connection on lower ic if your lookin at the pump side, then gets cooled comes out lower right on lower ic and goes again or am I mistaken?

What pump, what coolant?

Flow should go:

Bottom port on upper IC---->Heat exchanger(s)---->Pump---->Top port on upper IC
This keeps the pump a little cooler since the coolant has been through the heat exchangers right before the pump. Having the fluid sucked out of the bottom port keeps air from being pushed through the system.

Use any green-stuff coolant and a bottle of water wetter :tup:

I went to 4, YES 4 marine and rv places today only 1 carried pumps, so im lookin at them and the guy comes over an trys to help and I tell him what Im doing and he looks in his book, I used the part # from the archieves which is no good anymore, so then he trys to cross refrence it to something newer and it dont work, by then people are lined up behind me and he starts freakin out tryin to rush me through. Like I give a $hit if people are waiting my money is green, kinda. anyway then he starts being a real prick and gives up and just says "Im not a mechanic, we dont work on cars just boats I cant help you anymore, next person please!" I was dumbfounded. If I had been in a bad mood I probabley would have just kept standing there and made a seen or broke his nose, but I wasnt really that mad, suprisingly.

Get a shureflo model 2088 (12v), 2.8GPM @45psi. Standard RV demand pump. I sell them everyday.

The marine guys really shouldnt have "RV" pumps, but I cant believe how any self respecting RV parts dealer doesnt have water pumps...thats wierd :roll: I carry like 4-5 different types...in stock

 

[Black Knight]

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Water wetter thats what I was lookin for thank god, OK where do I get that?
Which model 2088 some did 2.8, 3.0, and 3.3 GPM, wouldnt I want the big 1?
All they had were bildge pumps I was pretty suprised no 1 had any.
So it needs to go into the heat exchanger on the top port right? Why do you say exchangers do some people use more than 1?

 

[TYRODD]

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Water wetter thats what I was lookin for thank god, OK where do I get that?
Which model 2088 some did 2.8, 3.0, and 3.3 GPM, wouldnt I want the big 1?
All they had were bildge pumps I was pretty suprised no 1 had any.
So it needs to go into the heat exchanger on the top port right? Why do you say exchangers do some people use more than 1?

If the other 2 are 12v then yes, but the 2.8 has worked great in my ty for 3 years of constant abuse. I carry a 5.7 GPM

Should go bottom to top so the air will burp out of the system better.

I have 2 heat exchangers, some have more and others have ice boxes, water tanks, etc. ATR carried a aux cooler that fits behind the grill...thats the one I have. save your money and use any heater core that will fit there instead, will prolly work better anyways. :tup:

 

[dirtdemon]

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Flow should go:

Bottom port on upper IC---->Heat exchanger(s)---->Pump---->Top port on upper IC
This keeps the pump a little cooler since the coolant has been through the heat exchangers right before the pump. Having the fluid sucked out of the bottom port keeps air from being pushed through the system.

is this different to stock routing ??? - please :repost:

TIA, pat.

 

[Black Knight]

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is this different to stock routing ??? - please :repost:

TIA, pat.

See thats what I thought it sounds just like mine is set up. I think there trying to confuse me and its workin. As far as I can tell my stock pump is after the heat exchanger, so why say anything about it unless there not all that way?

 

[Black Knight]

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So if a little is good, alot is better right 3.0 or 3.5???
Would it be too much presure of the parts in the system??