ign question.

[T3n5oR]

so, i have a 1993 typhoon, that was running fine, i just thought id give it a lil tune up. i put on a k&n airfilter, some taylor wires, msd coil, cap & rotor, thats it. now it runs like crap, idles ruff, and backfires fairly frequently. the only thing that isn't hooked up like stock, is the bigger hose on drivers side that went to the air filter tube has a cone filter of its own(i assumes it was valve cover vent.
edit: new plugs too.
]any thoughts? mabye a wire not fully con nected?


thanks guys!! vsorry, new to this...

 

[WyoSyclone]

Re: ign question.

I'd double check the plug wires for proper firing order 165432. Where on the dizzy cap is the number 1 plug wire at?

 

[T3n5oR]

Re: ign question.

what should it be, i marked the old ones and tried to be careful, but do you have a diagram?
edit: i marked as a clock 12 being closest to firewall, 11, 1, 3, 5, 7 , 9

 

[WyoSyclone]

Re: ign question.

http://whitetyphoon.com/firing_order.html

When you use the search button, you'll come up with all sorts of info like this

 

[T3n5oR]

Re: ign question.

so, as you go clockwise around the cap it should be 165432, starting from 1 being about 5 o'clock if 12 o'clock is closest to firewall?

edit: i was searching, you just beat vme sorry, and thanks.

 

[T3n5oR]

Re: ign question.

ok, that did it, had a couple wires crossed. there is a slight tick towards the rear of the engine now, and it seems slow to build boost, and when i let off the gas after accel, it has a gargley soiund, is that from the k&n??

 

[WyoSyclone]

Re: ign question.

i was searching, you just beat vme sorry, and thanks.

No prob... just giving you a hard time

Glad you found part of the problem.

 

[the baPhoon]

Re: ign question.

The sound you're hearing is air blowing back through the Turbo when the throttle flapper closes. Much louder with anon stock filter.

 

[T3n5oR]

Re: ign question.

Slight tick from rear of engine: Go out tonight when it's dark, start it, and open the hood. Look for arcing plug wires or a spark plug in the vicinity of the click. Taylor wires are very delicate, and prone to being torn or damaged, and cause arcing to ground.

A wire arcing to ground will make it sluggish and slow to build boost because technically, it's dropping a cyl. I'm not bagging on you for the crossed wires, that happens to the best of us from time to time. But changing plugs in these things, especially the RH side is tricky. It's easy to crack a plug porcelain if you aren't extra-cautious. The plugs are another thing to check for the arcing.

And we are assuming of course, that the tick is new. That it wasn't there before you worked on it. Let us know what you find.

ok, ill look later, thx guys!

 

[T3n5oR]

Re: ign question.

so now, when i floor it, it builds some boost, feels great then dies after about 2 secs, wont go fast no more...what the deal?

 

[KDBL1TY]

Re: ign question.

R u disconnecting the tan wire on passenger side before setting the timing to 0. There is a write up on proper sequence for setting the timing. Jus go back over everything real slow and u will find the mistake.

 

[T3n5oR]

Re: ign question.

R u disconnecting the tan wire on passenger side before setting the timing to 0. There is a write up on proper sequence for setting the timing. Jus go back over everything real slow and u will find the mistake.

I didnt think i needed to reset the timing, i just swapped parts.

 

[BMFB]

Re: ign question.

I hate to bring this back from the dead, but Im putting my motor in right now and I looked for the correct firing order and found that link to the awesome interactive diagram. But, my problem is that when i took the motor apart I scrawled a mark into the dizzy and intake for reference, and it your looking at it like a clock, and 12 o'clock is straight at the firewall, mines at about 10:30 as opposed to the 1:30 shown in that picture...with that being said, should I move my #1 over a terminal or just leave it...I didnt mark them down when I took them off as to which was which for wire position, but it ran great. any ideas?

 

[Quickstop [UK]]

Re: ign question.

You should move it - It's a simple turn of the dizzy and it's located that way due to the mess of other stuff.

You can point the dizzy any way you wa t but if you keep it standard you won't have the hassle of talking a different language when people try and help

Edit - have you set the oil pump/dizzy to point at number 1? Number 1 is the front driver side cylinder. May be a fiddle turning the motor if you have had it out which it sounds like you have.

 

[dgoodhue]

Re: ign question.

You should move it - It's a simple turn of the dizzy and it's located that way due to the mess of other stuff.

Move it, because you will probably find the wires aren't long enough when you set the timing. Otherwise it doesn't make a difference.