LS1 typhoon?

fiveoh

Enforcing traffic laws
before anyone else tells you, use the SEARCH feature. im sure there is something on here with that topic
 

jeremysyty

New member
ANYONE CAN PUT A SBC in a S10... they are a dime a dozen.... everyone has them.

Why destroy a classic? It would be like taking a Classic Corvette and putting a Honda motor in it.
 

blk97ta

Member
"would it be possible to put a small block in a typhoon, the 700r4 will bolt right to a sbc"

that's like putting a D!CK on jenna jameson EEEWWWWW :tdown: :D
 

jeremysyty

New member
Each their own, fast is fast no matter how you do it.

I was just stating my 0.02 cents, which isn't worth that much. LOL JK :p
 
v8

v8

Boys Let the FLAMING begin....dude you dont know what your in for...Go to the S-10 forums....you can get plenty of answers there..
If you do V8 the Typhoon Please message me and I will personally buy EVERYTHING taken out for the conversion as I would like to turbo my Blazer... I already have all the cladding except for a rear corner and would like to put all the ty turbo stuff in it
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
If your going to do a LS1 conversion, do something wild atleast low 11's sec time slip or faster preferable 10's or 9's (Twin Turbo would be nice) A mild LS1 is a waste of money, you can do the same thing for less effort and the stock motor and not kill th evalue and uniqueness of the truck.
 

BigAl...

Member
isn't Todd or someone else in the middle of an ls1 ty project? I thought I saw a picture of the oil pan finished. you guys need to go check the project section on this board.

BigAl...
 

Tydriver

TurboLS6 Powa'
dgoodhue said:
If your going to do a LS1 conversion, do something wild atleast low 11's sec time slip or faster preferable 10's or 9's (Twin Turbo would be nice) A mild LS1 is a waste of money, you can do the same thing for less effort and the stock motor and not kill th evalue and uniqueness of the truck.

Blah blah blah..

Unique-ness ? Whats more unique than an LS6 in an typhoon damn near 8000 of them came with 4.3L turbos. Not many will have Turbo'd LS6's.

IMO, a an LS1/6 or for that matter the GEN 3 motor is a much better platform to start with than the 4.3L.

Couple of things to consider :

1. Stock 4.3L dressed up with all the accesories weighs within 25# of the ls1/6 in the same condition. (aluminum block = ownage)

2. The stock LS1 heads flow around 270-280 cfm off the shelf from the general. LS6 heads closer to 300cfm WITHOUT ANY PORTING.

3. The Gen3 blocks all have 6 bolt mains.. only 2 with the 4.3L

4. The high performance market is 10x bigger than anything ever thought about being for the 4.3L.

5. Take a stock LS1 motor at 310-335hp (depending on application) or even an LQ9 iron block 6.0L (345hp) and throw on 150 shot of nitrous and it will outrun 90% of the trucks here on SyTy.net and still be dead nutz reliable. (cant say that for many 450-500hp 4.3L's)

Anyone that wants to perform this mod on their truck I say KUDO's to you for thinking outside the box and trying something new. YES it will fit, NO its not as simple as a SBC swap. Howewer, anyone that claims its more $$ than doing a 4.3L is obviously quite misinformed. Dollar for Dollar its pretty close, I'd have to guess its slightly more than doing the 4.3L but not buy much at all. IMO, well worth the $$ spent to have a much more reliable platform.

I've gotten alot of criticism for starting this project, those that know me know it will be done RIGHT, the rest can just :fist: Most of the parts I am using are straight from GM. Not many 'built' 4.3L motors can say the same thing.

Ohh, and in terms of hp and tq #'s 14-15# of boost on a stock well tuned LS1 rotating assembly with 120,000 miles has already made WELL OVER 750 RWHP and close to 800lb ft.

Anyone thats interested in this build is welcome to contact me, I will try to help out with what I can. My website is in my signature and the gallery has alot of helpful pics.

Ohhh, and dont feel like the lone-ranger.. There are more of us doing this than some people want to see :rock: I have had contact with about 4-5 interested people and 2 are definites..
 

SyTyJedi

Jedi Council
Tydriver said:
dgoodhue said:
If your going to do a LS1 conversion, do something wild atleast low 11's sec time slip or faster preferable 10's or 9's (Twin Turbo would be nice) A mild LS1 is a waste of money, you can do the same thing for less effort and the stock motor and not kill th evalue and uniqueness of the truck.

Blah blah blah..

Unique-ness ? Whats more unique than an LS6 in an typhoon damn near 8000 of them came with 4.3L turbos. Not many will have Turbo'd LS6's.

IMO, a an LS1/6 or for that matter the GEN 3 motor is a much better platform to start with than the 4.3L.

Couple of things to consider :

1. Stock 4.3L dressed up with all the accesories weighs within 25# of the ls1/6 in the same condition. (aluminum block = ownage)

2. The stock LS1 heads flow around 270-280 cfm off the shelf from the general. LS6 heads closer to 300cfm WITHOUT ANY PORTING.

3. The Gen3 blocks all have 6 bolt mains.. only 2 with the 4.3L

4. The high performance market is 10x bigger than anything ever thought about being for the 4.3L.

5. Take a stock LS1 motor at 310-335hp (depending on application) or even an LQ9 iron block 6.0L (345hp) and throw on 150 shot of nitrous and it will outrun 90% of the trucks here on SyTy.net and still be dead nutz reliable. (cant say that for many 450-500hp 4.3L's)

Anyone that wants to perform this mod on their truck I say KUDO's to you for thinking outside the box and trying something new. YES it will fit, NO its not as simple as a SBC swap. Howewer, anyone that claims its more $$ than doing a 4.3L is obviously quite misinformed. Dollar for Dollar its pretty close, I'd have to guess its slightly more than doing the 4.3L but not buy much at all. IMO, well worth the $$ spent to have a much more reliable platform.

I've gotten alot of criticism for starting this project, those that know me know it will be done RIGHT, the rest can just :fist: Most of the parts I am using are straight from GM. Not many 'built' 4.3L motors can say the same thing.

Ohh, and in terms of hp and tq #'s 14-15# of boost on a stock well tuned LS1 rotating assembly with 120,000 miles has already made WELL OVER 750 RWHP and close to 800lb ft.

Anyone thats interested in this build is welcome to contact me, I will try to help out with what I can. My website is in my signature and the gallery has alot of helpful pics.

Ohhh, and dont feel like the lone-ranger.. There are more of us doing this than some people want to see :rock: I have had contact with about 4-5 interested people and 2 are definites..


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BigAl...

Member
Todd, sometimes I wish I would have gone the ls1 rout, with what I have spent on the 4.3 I could have easily built a monster ls1 w/turbo, nitrous, afterburner, madmax switchable blower etc etc etc...

more power to ya! but you know I'm gonna give you sh!t when you say something like "worlds fasted typhoon" hehe

BigAl...
 

Tydriver

TurboLS6 Powa'
BigAl... said:
Todd, sometimes I wish I would have gone the ls1 rout, with what I have spent on the 4.3 I could have easily built a monster ls1 w/turbo, nitrous, afterburner, madmax switchable blower etc etc etc...

more power to ya! but you know I'm gonna give you sh!t when you say something like "worlds fasted typhoon" hehe

BigAl...

Hahahahahaha Thats some funny stuff there Al.. I like the part about the madmax switchable blower (you dont know about some ideas I have had in that department).......

As far as having the fastest Typhoon, I doubt that will ever happen. I've sort of switched gears from an all out drag monster with 750-850 AWHP, to something alittle more on the milder side. An LS1/6 motor can take a fair amount of abuse at the 500-550hp level and last a very long time (probably longer than the transmission anyhow)... With that said, I got introuduced to SCCA racing this last summer (always knew it existed, just got to do it myself) and I gotta say, doing the twisties is ALOT more fun than straight line. Not to mention the average run is around 60-90seconds (versus what ? 10-14secs for drag ?).. Dollar for dollar my money I think is better spent setting up the truck for RELIABLE MEDIUM performance build and enjoying it alot more than if I built up a monster drag truck..

You will notice a post on the BBS elsewhere in regards to going Vette IRS. When the LS1/6 project is wrapped up I intend to do this as well. I speak to Adam (CheshireCat) quite a bit on AOL we have been talking about doing the IRS for quite a while, he just beat me to it :tup:

Not quite sure what class an AWD, IRS, Turbocharged LS6 Typhoon would be in for SCCA purposes but its going to raise some eyebrows (now if I could only drive to the cars capability......)

I refuse to cage my truck, as well as refuse to lose the creature comforts such as AC and a nice stereo.. Those are almost given to dump when going drag racing. My goals have changed since the inception of this project, as I am sure many other peoples have throughout their ownership. In the end I think I will be happier not going for that quickest ET title.. Besides I think Gerber or Nolan, or Ryan R will be tickling low 10s (even 9's) next season, thats waaay out of my league.

Hows your build coming ?
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
Tydriver said:
Unique-ness ? Whats more unique than an LS6 in an typhoon damn near 8000 of them came with 4.3L turbos. Not many will have Turbo'd LS6's.

:2cents: Everytime someone does a LS1/6 swap, we lose another syty owner to comiserate with our troubles (or worse yet they will all kind of time not devoted to tuning to rub it in)

IMO, a an LS1/6 or for that matter the GEN 3 motor is a much better platform to start with than the 4.3L.

Its a better platform, but its not what we have to start with. Initially the cost of a LS1 swap will be more expensive than modifying a stock 4.3 I am sure its get pretty close in cost vs a built 4.3

In some area's of the country, the LS1 isn't going to be so easy at the emmision station (especially once mods are done)

2. The stock LS1 heads flow around 270-280 cfm off the shelf from the general. LS6 heads closer to 300cfm WITHOUT ANY PORTING.

3. The Gen3 blocks all have 6 bolt mains.. only 2 with the 4.3L

4. The high performance market is 10x bigger than anything ever thought about being for the 4.3L.

I think the market is closer to 50x or 100x bigger. The LSx has many advantage over the 4.3's, it has many advantages over the original SBC as well.

5. Take a stock LS1 motor at 310-335hp (depending on application) or even an LQ9 iron block 6.0L (345hp) and throw on 150 shot of nitrous and it will outrun 90% of the trucks here on SyTy.net and still be dead nutz reliable. (cant say that for many 450-500hp 4.3L's)

Take a stock LS1 w/N2O and put it in a SyTy. 99% of the time it will be just as a fast as well tuned ultimate stock turbo class truck, the Ls1 don't have the low end torque of a stock 4.3, so it won't be as quick out of the hole (unless a big stall converter is used) and it will be a little quicker on the top end. I am not a big fan of throwing a big shot N2O on a stock (or mostly stock motor with a few bolt ons), off the Nitrous, you are driving a stock vehicle, I would personally rather have the $$ of the cost of N2O in bolt ons. On built botor or some who is already pushing the limits motor (ie ported heads, cam, headers) I would do N2O on that combo, but to each their own.

I think its a complete waste to stick a 100% stock TPI 350 or LT1 in a SyTy, as they will be slower than stock 4.3.


Ohh, and in terms of hp and tq #'s 14-15# of boost on a stock well tuned LS1 rotating assembly with 120,000 miles has already made WELL OVER 750 RWHP and close to 800lb ft.

IMO that is :tup:
 
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