Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

[Black Knight]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

So the new GTR maintains your afternoon calorie intake?

Oh here we go :rotf: You'd better not miss spell anything ever again jackoff :fist: :lol:

Dude.....your in Tracy....thats a ways north from Orange county isn't it ?? Besides....you didn't give me your didgits at Nats. I'll be in Santa Ana next week til the 20th......up an down the coast, working install sites etc.

...............speaking of that....Love to see Deans Sy while I'm out !!!!!!!


By the way....I love the newest Corvette's looks. Its a completely different car from the GT-R....I really don't see why most people use it as a benchmark against a four seat heavier different Genre' car ??
Cheers,Vinny

I know, I know, just had to give you some shit :tup:

Dont just go off the looks drive the vette's though! C5 Z06>C6

 

[tnsyty]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

You might want to verify the production location on these. All 1,500 limited edition NISMO 350Z's were built in Japan (I have the exact location on my certificate) and if I am not mistaken, the GT-R's are all built there as well.

They are made in Japan. In my earlier post I was refering to Nissan's plants and Nissan headquarters are all in this area. Some executives get to drive around cars that aren't out yet. They carry them to events for viewing, and to dealerships to educate the mechanics. That is how Z-attack (local z show) managed to have a GTR and an 09 maxima at the show. Neither car is out yet. A couple of the the guys are in the local club

At the unveiling of the C6 Z06, GM executives took a new car to the track with nothing more than "manufacture" paper plates on it and raced it at BG. Other manufacturers do the same thing. I used to have friends near Detroit that would occasionally get to see a new car with no badging just being driven around.

Here we get the Altima, Maxima, and we get some engines from Decherd.

 

[T-Bone]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

They are made in Japan. In my earlier post I was refering to Nissan's plants and Nissan headquarters are all in this area.

Gotcha . I have a standing invite to the plant but haven't went yet. Not really desirous of going I guess. See ya soon.

 

[KGB Pilot125]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

A friend and I saw one in Durango,Colorado in the parking lot of the super 8. Had manufacturer plates on it. maybe they were doing high altitide testing? Seems like we see a lot of wrapped cars, manufacturer plates around here and over the passes. Yesterday I passed a convoy of 5 smart cars with manufacturer tags, laptops in the passenger seats, and multiple antenna's on the roof.

 

[tnsyty]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

Gotcha . I have a standing invite to the plant but haven't went yet. Not really desirous of going I guess. See ya soon.

I have toured the engine plant in dechered. I have had the opportunity to tour Smyrna car plant a few times and have YET to go. It is always part of the Z car show, but I generally go to the show, the late night street races, and the Natchez Trace cruise with them.

 

[DOUG87GN]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

Saw a silver one on the interstate in Nashville, good looking car.

 

[KFC_Or_Bust]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

I thought the when the GT-R ran the ring it was not stock, something about slicks that were cut by an engineer or something, gimme a few, I'll find a link

edit: all i can find is forum blabber, nothing concrete. mostly about standing start for the vette and a flying start for the nissan, stock street rubber on the vette and cut slicks on the GT-R.

http://www.racevideoforums.com/forums/news/4620-truth-about-gt-r-nuerburgring-lap-record.html

There's a link for you guys. T Bone I don't know what you're talking about how the Z06 "Gets waxed" by the GT-R but that's not true. Maybe to 60 by a **** hair but after the Z gets traction it's lights out for the Nissan. Watch that video and you'll see it's BS. Of course you can't see the different tires and suspension but you can definitely see he had a rolling start of probably 60+mph and where the time started was definitely not where it ended on the track. It was like 500 feet before where the timer started that it stopped at 7:38. Z06>GT-R and if that doesn't do it for you then ZR-1>*

 

[super-gt]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

Z06 STILL has a pushrod motor......R35 has a marvle wonder coming about in a small displacement multivalve super smooth engine...

No offense intended but I'm not seeing a point to this comment. It seems more like a biased statement than anything.

Yea the GTR is housing an excellent engine, but don't forgett that the vette is also. Why does it matter that it is a pushrod motor?

It is physically quite small
It get's pretty good mileage for the displacement
It is lightweight
Makes lots of power
Reliable
Simple

wheres the problem?

I hear people complaining about push rod motors all the time and I have never understood why.

As long as the engine in question is capable of making good, cost efficient power, while retaining acceptable driveability why should the engine style cause such an issue?

 

[T-Bone]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

T Bone I don't know what you're talking about how the Z06 "Gets waxed" by the GT-R but that's not true. Maybe to 60 by a **** hair but after the Z gets traction it's lights out for the Nissan. Watch that video and you'll see it's BS.

Just pick up any magazine that has tested both and the evidence is pretty conclusive. The GT-R beat the Z06 and the 911 Turbo in these categories 0-60, 0-100, 1/4 mile, slalom and rated G's on the skidpad. The only thing it lost on was 100-0 braking to the 911 Turbo by 2 feet. I understand all the hatred towards a Japanese car since we live in the US but facts are facts and most purists who go after these type cars, don't care solely about top speed (I would hope a Z06 could eventually pass a GT-R given a long straight with their HP advantage but that has not been proven aside from theoretically). Personally, I would buy a Z06 just because I don't like the looks of the GT-R (too Aston Martin styled for me) but based on what I have read thus far on both cars, that is the only reason.

 

[AUSyTyIN]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

I'd take a GTR over the Z06 and ZR1 anyday. Getting traction on either on the street would be a nightmare. Similar to why we drive SyTy's and not F-bodies, fox-bodies, corvettes, etc.

 

[phoonTy]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

(I would hope a Z06 could eventually pass a GT-R given a long straight with their HP advantage but that has not been proven aside from theoretically).

Part of the GTR's quickness comes due to it's very low/short gearing. I would think that would limit it's top end running flat out against anything, also. But where on earth would you even be able to have your foot into it that long? :dunno:

Whether you like them or hate them (this goes for any car) you certainly have to give credit where it's due to the amazing sports cars coming out these days. :tup:

 

[Sawdoff350]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

maybe the salt flats ... straight into the side of a mountain
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Vaporizers homemade

 

[jpalmer]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

Part of the GTR's quickness comes due to it's very low/short gearing. I would think that would limit it's top end running flat out against anything, also. But where on earth would you even be able to have your foot into it that long? :dunno:

running from the cops :lol:

 

[CarbonFiber AWD]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

No offense intended but I'm not seeing a point to this comment. It seems more like a biased statement than anything.

Yea the GTR is housing an excellent engine, but don't forgett that the vette is also. Why does it matter that it is a pushrod motor?

It is physically quite small
It get's pretty good mileage for the displacement
It is lightweight
Makes lots of power
Reliable
Simple

wheres the problem?

I hear people complaining about push rod motors all the time and I have never understood why.

As long as the engine in question is capable of making good, cost efficient power, while retaining acceptable driveability why should the engine style cause such an issue?

No offense here.....where just talking about cars. All your points were good ones and have been the main repeated points for the Vette powerplant for a long,long time. Why fix whats not broken , right ? I understand this.......but I guess, as an Engineer mindset....the smaller ,multivalve RB26 series engines that preceeded this newer R35 powerplant had made great improvements within their goals.
My point there is I hope our USA auto engineers have something grand up their sleeve soon.......I'm thinking high MPG yield engines that still have some balls, will be taking the auto audience for good.
Of course, forgoing the classics collectors like many of us on this board.

 

[AUSyTyIN]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

I've always said that GM needs to go with a DOHC setup on an LSx motor. That would be killer :tup:

 

[jpalmer]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

didn't they make a sohc v-8 in the vetts in the 90's, special edition, i know not an ls based motor but.....

 

[dgoodhue]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

didn't they make a sohc v-8 in the vetts in the 90's, special edition, i know not an ls based motor but.....

GM 'made' a LT5 which is DOHC in the 90-95 ZR-1.

 

[jpalmer]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

GM 'made' a LT5 which is DOHC in the 90-95 ZR-1.

oops thought it was single thanks for the correction, my bad :roll:

 

[Camaro67racer]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

Ok, its about time I chime in here... I've driven the new GT-R as well as a Z06, Viper, new M3 and others. Personally I do not care for the GT-R. Yes is it very fast, it puts up amazing numbers but they car just feels VERY cheap. By that I mean the tranny clunks like it is about to eat shit at any second and sounds like it has gravel rolling around in a tin can, the interior is not pleasing and the exterior is not attractive in my opinion. MOST importantly, the car just doesn't have any character or envoke any feeling to the driver, its just fast...plain and simple. The the feedback from the car is very very numb, it weighs in the 3800 lb range, there is no exhaust note to lust after, but it is fast. The car to me is just a showcase that you can make a car fast but it doesn't mean its good. A lot of people will think I am crazy but to me this car is just made for the young video game/internet generation (which is supposed to be me since I'm 23) meaning as of now you can't tell anyone that there is a better car in the world when you can buy a GT-R for $70k (ok I know thats the sticker and the are selling for more) that does 0-60 in 3.3sec, puts down a Nurburgring time of 7min 29sec and all that jazz. But here is the kicker, its turns fast laps times and goes really fast in a straight line, but with no feedback, lack of looks and so many computers its just not as fun as an M3, Z06, Mercedes C63 and so on. The car just doesn't take as much skill to go fast since the car is doing so much for you. If you don't respect a Z06 or Viper it will kill you. Same for an M3, you can't just go and bomb into a corner otherwise you will spin endlessly around the track. The GT-R just doesn't give me any good emotions when I look at it or drive it. A Z06 or Viper is so amazing because (to me) of looks, sound, POWER, and the feeling of mastering that power gives me endless joy in all aspects. The GT-R doesn't really have any of these qualities in my mind.

I think I best described the GT-R to a friend when I was trying to describe how it doesn't have much of an exhaust note or give you feedback by saying.... "Its like having sex with a woman who makes no noise and just lays there....what's the fun in that?"

I lust after Syclones and Typhoons because I love looking at them and they are a blast to drive (especially because they are so rare) but they are also fun (and frustrating) because we all put so much heart and soul into these trucks as we love every aspect of them.

I'm just going to end with, to each his own and I can respect what the GT-R is, its just not for me.

 

[super-gt]

Re: Nissan Skyline GTR (2008)

No offense here.....where just talking about cars. All your points were good ones and have been the main repeated points for the Vette powerplant for a long,long time. Why fix whats not broken , right ? I understand this.......but I guess, as an Engineer mindset....the smaller ,multivalve RB26 series engines that preceeded this newer R35 powerplant had made great improvements within their goals.
My point there is I hope our USA auto engineers have something grand up their sleeve soon.......I'm thinking high MPG yield engines that still have some balls, will be taking the auto audience for good.
Of course, forgoing the classics collectors like many of us on this board.

I see what you are saying. I'm going to school to be an engineer so I'm right there with ya in that mindset. I'm just saying that there are different ways of achieving a single goal.

As for our future cars, it should be quite interesting. I doubt power will be a concern right away, more so just laying foundation for a new vehicle type. As far as I'm concerned, electric is the way to go. Obviously some kind of perpetual motion electric car would be the holy grail to obtain. But as of now, GM is going in the best direction with their new volt concept IMO.
Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles have potential but there are alot of problems with them.