Not impressed

[8thsin]

Ok dont hate me, but I have finally gotten to drive the typhoon, that I just bought, I raced a 80's model vette and won. Anyway the fact of the matter is, i think that this typhoon is slow, it has 71000 miles, shifts well and boosts at 14-15. It previously has had only one owner, but I dont know who because it was traded to a dealer, then sold to another dealer which called me. It has a kenne bell dirty filter(no airbox), 2.5 inch exhaust,(not sure about cats yet), a breather filter, imp boost gauge, there is a billet blue thing behind the ic box but i dont know what it is, (resembels a fpr).

Anyway I was wondering because it is getting close to winter, and I need a fast awd vehicle to take out evos, wrxs, vr4's and all-tracs, I would like to know if what i am doing is worth the money and will I notice a difference in performance.

NGK plugs
new cap and rotor
blade of death
huge tranny cooler (where can i get a B&M bolt on) (pt#)
get rid of metal ic lines
lower rear with blocks 2'
atr black beauties
3 inch exhaust no muff no cats
turbo to ic hardpipe with hks ss bov
new k & n (8inch cone) with hardpipe
160* thermo w/water wetter
bigger fuel pump
bigger ic pump (hotwired)
fans hotwired

Thanks in advance I just want to know if i should spend my money on this thing or something else I dont mean to offend anyone by saying that this ty is slow but, there could be something wrong with it. I would also like to know who owned it before me then i can figure out what it really has, 93 red typhoon bought in durhaum North Carolina. It is in perfect condition. I think its in my head that it is slow cause i took out a vette.

 

[Trevor]

A couple things...

It probably is slow. Rarely will you buy a stock-ish Ty and have it run stock numbers (14.1) without giving it some TLC. They require attention to stay in tune and usually the previous owners (no matter how knowledgeable) will let the tune slip before getting rid of the truck.

14-15 psi may be stock boost but with no anti-knock work on pump gas you could be knocking to high heaven. You should add a scan tool to that mod list. Actually you should put that at the TOP of the list.

Your butt dyno could be getting faked out. Sy/Ty's make a butt load of torque thru a broad RPM range. Add that to an auto trans and they have really good average power down the 1/4. That makes for a deceptive seat of the pants measurement and they usually run alot better times than you might think based on your butt dyno...especially if your butt dyno is used to a peaky small displacement turbo car with a stick.

 

[8thsin]

i think after even half of what i am going to do, will make it run better, it probably has not seen a brand new set of plugs, wires, or cap & rotor, since new. 3 things were can i get a blade of death ic scoop, or is it easier and more effective to just make one out of a storage box. Also which data logger does everyone recomend. Where can i buy the B&M 24,000 lb tranny cooler or a better one, i know fro jeggs or summit, but does anyone have a part#?


Thanks for the help, knew there was something up with this thing, i just am a noobie to the auto american skyline as it seems.

 

[Guest]

Im sure it just needs the basic tune-up and maybe some more boost.

I thought my first syclone was FAST until I pulled a 15.49!!! Well, maybe not. That blue thing behind the Ic is prob. an adjustable fuel pressure regulator, which is awesome cuase that is one thing you wont have to buy. Perhaps it already has a larger fuel pump in it?

 

[92BlkTy]

Got a laptop? Get datamaster or tubo link and see how its running before you blow all that money on it. mine required a minimal tune up when i bought it ( i determined this with datamaster) and after i did it, it did very well at the track. 14.2s bone stock. then i added a 3" exhaust with cutout and its like a whole diffrent truck under open exhaust. i did a 13.8 but would have easily done a 13.6 had i gotten a decent launch. this is all at 5800ft above sea level too!

get the bish running right before you mod it!

and use the search function to see what parts have worked well for others. Sytyarchives.com and Sytyauthority.net are the best places for how tos and FAQs with these trucks.

 

[Mad Mike]

After you add your list of upgrades get a scan tool then add a chip like the STG Ulitmate.

 

[dgoodhue]

Re: Not impressed

NGK plugs - good
new cap and rotor -good
blade of death -good
huge tranny cooler (where can i get a B&M bolt on) (pt#) -good
get rid of metal ic lines -good
lower rear with blocks 2' -asethetics
atr black beauties- good (though I prefer MSD)

3 inch exhaust no muff no cats - no cat mean either you need a external wastegate or you will over boost with the stock internal wastegate

turbo to ic hardpipe with hks ss bov - not a good bang for the buck unless you looking for a 'rice antagonizer', its supose to extend the life, but theyt often leak. Spend your money on a Ultimate Chip.

new k & n (8inch cone) with hardpipe -fine, a drop in K&N works fine.
160* thermo w/water wetter -good
bigger fuel pump -needed
bigger ic pump (hotwired) -if you go with an ultimate chip thsi is not need
fans hotwired - ???

I would recommend a scan tool and checking to make sure your IC pump is working properly (I have seen very few original IC pumps that still work)

 

[SY2932]

Re: Not impressed

I would recommend a scan tool and checking to make sure your IC pump is working properly (I have seen very few original IC pumps that still work)

Ditto. If your intercooler pump is inop you are loosing a lot of 'stang/vette smoking power . The way to check it out is as follows:

Turn ignition to "ON" but, do not start the truck. Then take a paper clip and bend it so that you can jumper the "A" and "B" terminals on the ALDL port under your steering wheel.

The "A" terminal is in the upper right hand corner and the diagnostic port "B" is immediately to the left of the "A" terminal. This will make your "check engine" light flash so that you can read any codes that are stored as well as run your intercooler pump. Pop the hood and listen for it and remove the cap to see if the coolant is circulating. If it's not, there is a fuse in a weather pack connector behind the alternator that might be blown. If the fuse is good, chances are the IC pump is dead. If so, time to give Ron Gregory in Garland TX a call: http://www.autoperformanceengineering.com/html/jabsco.html

 

[PPI Typhoon]

Also, one thing you may want to realize is that I've been in a few of these trucks, and minus a launch, they often do not "feel" fast. I also remember racing a vette on the freeway. I beat him, but the truck felt slow.

So get that thing tuned up, get a scantool, and find out where you stand. I just recently realized the strength of a truck with no knock. That makes a big difference.

And if you're still not impressed with a Typhoon after all that........you have pretty high expectations....

 

[93ty475]

Re: Not impressed

I raced a 80's model vette and won. Anyway the fact of the matter is, i think that this typhoon is slow

you beat a vette so you now think your truck is slow?

i think your typhoon's engine sound might be playing tricks on you... when i first bought my current turbo buick (my third one), i thought it was slow so i went out hunting....my buick is relatively stock...i raced an 03 mustang gt that night (i run 22psi boost and 104 sunoco in the buick) and smoked his ass....i think its the different sound of the six banger that plays tricks on your mind...the classic 8cyl sound just isn't there when you floor it...i watched a show one time that introduced a product that played different engine sounds over your speakers to enhance the driving experience...i think they were driving a ford festiva or geo metro and they could switch the engine tones from ferrari to a dragster....made the driver think he/she was hauling ass...my syclone on the other hand is modded and sounds like it has a jet engine going on under the hood...its not stock and when you ride in it, it lets you and anyone else around you know its moving...i also own a 2000 mustang gt...had it since new...its also stock but it still hauls ass...whats funny is when I drive the syclone and get into the buick, the buick feels slow...then you get out of the buick and into the mustang gt, the mustang feels slow...in that order...

 

[8thsin]

93ty475: it felt slow, just because it is a differnt platform than I am used to, but it is not the sound, of a 6 cylinder, cause i have one. (sig)


Anyway I will order the datamaster right away, after the basic tune up I will also get the ultimate chip. Chips and trucks go well together, Ecspecially on disel my buddy put two chips on his duramax with exhaust and a couple of other things and made 600hp and 800ftlbs or something in a 7,000 lb truck. It is not fair.

Thanks I will let you know what happens.