oil accumulator ?

Neelsonwheels

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I am planning a remote oil filter setup on my Typhoon and was looking into running an accumulator. Has anyone else tried on of these? it seems like cheap insurance/piece of mind. well cheap isn't really a good word but cheap compared to a rebuild. I will be using Canton racing products parts. Accumulator will be the 3 quart,canister oil filter with remote
mount,I will probable run the manual valve with the cable actuator. Let me know the good,bad,and ugly if anyone has a opinion.
Neels:tup:
 

BoostedSUV

Active member
Re: oil accumulator ?

We use those in our racecars to maintain oil pressure during deceleration. I don't really see the purpose of having one in a street car? If we're talking about the same thing that is
 

Windedv6

Ty n 10s
Re: oil accumulator ?

I run a 1.5 qt accumulator on my 2WD Typhoon. It does helps on deceleration, but I am going through the traps at 150 mph and hard on the breaks. I don't see any reason to have one on a street motor especially since our six cylinder motors use V8 pumps.

Also, understand how these work. If it’s open it acts like a extra oil supply as the pressure goes down so will pressure in the tank. So when you get low pressure you will not have any reserve anyway.

If you close it it will pump up pressure through the one way valve and hold the high pressure until it’s opened. If it a manual valve you would have to catch it at a low pressure problem and open it in time. Good luck catching that one in time.

I use a electric solenoid that opens mine when a pressure switch hits 18 lbs. It is usually loaded to about 65 lbs so when it opens the 65lb pressure falls fairly quickly to balance the 18 lb motor pressure. These are not meant to give you much time, but only a little boost to maintain pressure for a few seconds.

They will not save an oil pump problem because you will only know you have lost pressure after the accumulator is also empty.

John
 

BoostedSUV

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Re: oil accumulator ?

The ones we have on our dragsters you compress with air to a select pressure, once the oil pressure drops below that, the extra oil is pumped into the motor to prevent the oil pressure from dropping to 0. Once the ail pressure gets above that set point the oil gets pressurized back into the accumulator. Again my racecar decelerates from 190mph so the oil runs away from the pump and causes the drop in oil pressure.

If you're looking to "reserve" oil get an external 3qt oil cooler and that will flow extra oil through a canister. Truthfully pulling the dipstick and checking the level would be the best method.
 
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Neelsonwheels

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Re: oil accumulator ?

I was also looking into these to have the ability to pressurize the oiling system to prevent dry starts. My understanding is alot of wear accurs during startup. I will be going with a cooler also. My truck sits all winter and I don't want to cause any undo wear when I wake it from hibernation.
 

Windedv6

Ty n 10s
Re: oil accumulator ?

I was also looking into these to have the ability to pressurize the oiling system to prevent dry starts. My understanding is alot of wear accurs during startup. I will be going with a cooler also. My truck sits all winter and I don't want to cause any undo wear when I wake it from hibernation.

We have never had any problems in the syty V6 world of dry starts causing problems and many are sitting all winter and a number them are sitting for years. Also our low compression motors do not overly stress our crank/bearing on startup. If someone wants to have one for the look and conversation piece, thats cool. But a beneifit to a street car build isn't there.

They won't really pressureized on startup. They just relube. When you unload it prior to startup it only burps for a second and the pressure bumps to about 10 lbs for that instance then the pressures is gone. It basically pushes the oil thats in the oil circuit and replaces it with oil thats in the tank. Its the same oil that it was filled with the last time you ran your motor its not like you are getting some kind of fresh oil through the motor.

If you have it pressurized prior the winter storage it will be bleed down by spring. If you change your oil and want to change the oil in the tank then you have to unpressurize it. The only way to get oil back in is by starting the motor and letting the motor pump it back in.

I am not trying to talk you out of having one, but just letting you know they are not worth having except to support the low oil pressure for a short period of time upon deep deceleration. They last a few seconds at the end of the track because you still have the oil pump helping to add oil and pressure from the pan. If the pump wasn't working or pan totally dry, the pressure is quickly gone.
 
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Neelsonwheels

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Re: oil accumulator ?

Thanks Winded.
You always reply to my posts and have always been very easy on me and my lack of knowledge with these trucks. Guys like you are such a valuable resource to someone trying to become a edjucated owner of such a different vehicle. After reading your post and considering the cost and available space to install one I am going to hold off on the accumulator. I am going to go with a remote filter and 3 quart cooler though.
neels
 

BoostedSUV

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Re: oil accumulator ?

Thanks Winded.
You always reply to my posts and have always been very easy on me and my lack of knowledge with these trucks. Guys like you are such a valuable resource to someone trying to become a edjucated owner of such a different vehicle. After reading your post and considering the cost and available space to install one I am going to hold off on the accumulator. I am going to go with a remote filter and 3 quart cooler though.
neels
Pretty sure I said the same thing :lol: :tup:
 

Neelsonwheels

Donating Member
Re: oil accumulator ?

yes you did.
I didn't meen you any disrespect.
Your input was just as influential in my decision.
Thanks
While we are still on the subject. Any thoughts on a good quality oil cooler?
Thanks again
Neels
 

BoostedSUV

Active member
Re: oil accumulator ?

yes you did.
I didn't meen you any disrespect.
Your input was just as influential in my decision.
Thanks
While we are still on the subject. Any thoughts on a good quality oil cooler?
Thanks again
Neels

B&M makes a really nice 3qt oil cooler/resevoir. I see those on a lot of the racecars around the track.
 

JSM

Active member
Re: oil accumulator ?

I have one and wouldn't be without it. Went through couple motors due to oil starvation, since I put it on everything has been perfect. I love it and well worth the cost IMO.
 
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