Oil Pump Support Bracket...

Windedv6

Windedv6

Ty n 10s
I have been seeing several threads of people being worried about the Melling oil pumps. With good reason after seeing what happened to Epix. The Melling Select pump that RPM sells (and others) is right for our trucks. If you want some extra protection from vibration use this bracket. It is about $20.00.

MILODON CHEVY OIL PUMP SUPPORT BRACKET
Designed to prevent pump housing cracking in high stress and vibration conditions. Will fit aftermarket and O.E. oil pump.

Oil Pump Support

#17200
Small Block Chevy using 4-Bolt Small Block Oil Pump with Tube-type Pick-Up

I have it and gives a good piece of mind.

John

John
 
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MikeRenz

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i think the better question is why does milodon make this kit, yet not admit they have a casting problem. Or why don't they just suggest to use this, or hell just include it w/ an oil pump purchase.
 
JSM

JSM

Active member
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Milodon is not same as Melling.

I know spelling and all.
 
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MikeRenz

not stock
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i thought it was known that its all the same castings though....that melling and milodon and etc,etc all share them.
 
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CLONE

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They've made the pump support brackets for years. I know a few guys that run modifieds and sprint cars around here and it is crazy how everything is beefed up for the rigors of racing. My favorite thing is how they safety wire the bolts on the quick change rear ends. It makes swapping gears a little less quick....
 
Windedv6

Windedv6

Ty n 10s
Re: Oil Pump Support Bracket...

MikeRenz said:
i think the better question is why does milodon make this kit, yet not admit they have a casting problem. Or why don't they just suggest to use this, or hell just include it w/ an oil pump purchase.
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This item has been around for years. It is commonly used for deep oil pans that have extended pickups. It is normally vibration the weakens and cracks the castings. Possibly the longer pickups could put some additional leverage on the pump neck, also causing fatigue?

John
 
kessler

kessler

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just thought id throw in a little bit of info for you guys. I just got off the phone with Summit and there is no bracket that will work with our Engines, The one listed above is for a 4 bolt main set up, So unless you have done that don't waist your time.
 
Windedv6

Windedv6

Ty n 10s
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kessler said:
just thought id throw in a little bit of info for you guys. I just got off the phone with Summit and there is no bracket that will work with our Engines, The one listed above is for a 4 bolt main set up, So unless you have done that don't waist your time.
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Mr Kessler

Maybe you want to call back to your Summit guy and explain to him that he may need a little education before he just reads, or in this case MIS-READS, a description. Below is the description in the catalog from the two different SBC kits. The meaning of the wording below "Small Block Chevy using 4-Bolt Small Block Oil Pump" doesn't refer to 4 bolt mains. It refers to the bolt pattern on the pump pickup plate. The reason that they reference this is because you can purchase a BBC pump that is in a cast housing to fit a SBC, This particular pump has a 5 bolt pattern which uses the other kit listed below.

Small Block Chevy using 4-Bolt Small Block Oil Pump with Tube-type Pick-Up 17200
Small Block Chevy using 5-Bolt Big Block Oil Pump 17150

These kits have been around for over ten years and are a bolt-on for the two piece rear seal crank motors. They also work with the one piece crank motors with a little bit of triming. This is because the one piece crank seal adapter sets closer to the edge of the pump body.

I am not trying to bite back here (well maybe a little just for fun), but I made my first pass down a dragstrip in 1972 and have been around SBCs and our V6s a long time. I have probably been around this stuff longer than the " catalog distrubtion parts phone person" you spoke to has been alive.

I also printed the instruction that comes with this kit below.

INSTRUCTIONS FOR MILODOM PART #17200

Oil pump support bracket for use on 4 bolt small block pump with tube type pickup. On this model, bracket attaches to the #4 main cap windage tray stud or bolt.

To futher clarify this. The meaning of "the #4 main cap" is the fourth cap back from the front on a SBC which is the #3 cap back from the 90* V6. The kit includes an extended main stud to use in case you are using bolts for your caps.

If you had called Milodon instead of Summit you would have received the correct answer... and we would not have to waste our time on this.

Renz - I will be at my local machine shop next week. I will mock one up on a bare block for you.

John
 
kessler

kessler

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Re: Oil Pump Support Bracket...

I called and was only relaying what i was told by 2 different guys from there and i wasnt trying to be an ass. I thought that this would be a good investment and when i called to order a new pump and Bracket the guy i spoke to said that he needed to check with there tech dept to see if that would work. When he came back on the phone he stated that the way it mounted would only work with the 4 bolts and he said he didnt have another listing for that bracket for a Small Block Chevy. I thought i was helping out,
So once again i am sorry that i was wrong on this part but like i said i was only relaying what i was told. So now i can get back ahold of summit and order this since i was told wrong.

Thank you

Also Summit is out of stock so i ordered threw Jegs Ill have it on WED Thanks again
 
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Windedv6

Windedv6

Ty n 10s
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The only thing I would caution is that I use a after market Stef's aluminum pan. Our stock 4x4 pan could be tighter. I will take my stock pan to the machine shop next week to see if there is a fitiment problem with the smaller stock pan.

John
 
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