SCCA Solo Rules and Classes

[sytyguy]

Re: SCCA Solo Rules and Classes

I asked the man doing safety checks at the Shindig what class I would be running in. He chuckled and said, "Well, let's see....for starters, did your Typhoon come factory with disc brakes in the rear"? Upon my "no" reply, he said well, this is easy, you are in the ESP category. As has been mentioned, if it is a readily visible mod, it will land us in the ESP class. Really no biggie if you can drive above average

Yeah, for the Shindig, I told tech to break us into 2 classes....FS for stock and ESP for all else. Since this was non-points and no locals ran in FS or ESP, the division was purely our decision. Now, at a regional event where points/PAX matters, you'll play by their rules and may be in STU, SM, or CP.

 

[GAShan]

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A number of SUV's run down here in SCCA auto-x events. I've seen ML55's and X5's, even one X5M. I try to be honest at tech because no one there really knows what to look for on Syclones anyway.

 

[rentedmule]

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They won't let full size SUVs run in any of the clubs I've been in. I talked it over quite a bit with the organizers and they agreed that many of them can pull impressive numbers on a skid pad but the quick transitions make them a roll-over hazard.

Regarding lowering - cranking the t-bars down also softens the spring rate, doesn't it? In that case the lowering effect is just for looks since you'd be significantly increasing body roll with the mod. As long as I'm not on race tires I'd rather it be a bit higher with a stiffer spring rate than low and soft.

 

[REVEREND HARMON]

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But hummers are not allowed

 

[HighPerformanceTrucks]

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I believe it is SM2 for the Sy since it's a 2 seater. That is the class I competed in back in the autox days.

http://www.scca.com/contentpage.aspx?content=61

Stock SyTys fall into F Stock Class (FS). With certain modifications we also fall into Street Modified II (SM2) and E Street Prepared (ESP).

We are NOT eligible for: STS, STS 2, STX, STU, and SM

So what does that mean:

Stock
This class includes mass produced vehicles able to be used for normal street driving. Stock Category cars must compete in their showroom configuration with only minor modifications allowed such as aftermarket shocks, wheels, and tires. Other minor modifications are allowed as well, so please refer to the Solo Rules for details.

Street Prepared
Any and all Stock Category vehicles are eligible for Street Prepared. You're also allowed to make modifications to the suspension, ignition, intake, and exhaust to further enhance the performance of the vehicle. No internal engine modifications are allowed, but minor changes to the bodywork to accommodate larger wheels and tires are permitted. Please refer to the Solo Rules for details on the allowable modifications.

 

[sytyguy]

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They won't let full size SUVs run in any of the clubs I've been in. I talked it over quite a bit with the organizers and they agreed that many of them can pull impressive numbers on a skid pad but the quick transitions make them a roll-over hazard.

CRSCCA had a guy roll a Cooper S due to a chicago box....that's where their hesitance came from, but they still allowed a Ty on course. A complete muppet can ruin ANY car on an autocross course.....it's that simple. But a decent driver could put a lifted Explorer through it's paces. It's about knowing where and how to go fast....and that comes with education, not vehicle limitation.

Punishing an entire group based on misconception reminds me of......well......the Third Reich.

 

[sytyguy]

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A quick rundown of the SCCA SOLO categories for those who want the short version:

http://cms.scca.com/documents/Solo_Rules/solo_categories.pdf

 

[rentedmule]

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CRSCCA had a guy roll a Cooper S due to a chicago box....that's where their hesitance came from, but they still allowed a Ty on course. A complete muppet can ruin ANY car on an autocross course.....it's that simple. But a decent driver could put a lifted Explorer through it's paces. It's about knowing where and how to go fast....and that comes with education, not vehicle limitation.

Punishing an entire group based on misconception reminds me of......well......the Third Reich.

This is the exact argument I made to our local organizers. They are generally good about letting trucks do a try out lap now but there's still some that they won't look at at all. They are also extremely careful with what cars they let run with R compounds. They've had a few close calls where cars have gotten up on two wheels.

Myself and a few other 2wd S10 guys broke the ice in that club when we started going regularly and now their default when someone asks is "no trucks unless it's an S-series" :lol: They let a bunch of the guys run sy/tys at Nats a few years ago without any fuss.

There is something to be said for height restrictions though. I ran a winter series (mostly dry pavement) on snow tires that raised the truck 1.5" and made it 5" narrower and it was hard on the nerves. I spun out at one point and had to hold it to the floor to make sure it kept going around instead of going over