Speakers for the Syclone.....

[GM TURBO]

I don't want to bust your balls or anything - but you need to do a little reading on what to look for.

Watts = how much power (essentially) the speaker can handle. However, this isn't always going to be totally true. I'd say more speakers are cooked because of distortion - not being over driven from the headunit. An underpowered head unit will clip (overdriven) sending distortion to the speaker. You are better off providing more power to a speaker than not enough to get the same volume.

With that said....

Sensitivity Ratio - how loud will a speaker play with 1 watt @ 1 meter - measured in db. This is for all practical purposes - how efficient a speaker is. So a speaker that plays @ 93db will play louder than a speaker that is rated at 87db. A double in power - causes an increase of 3db. So at 2 watts - in theory those two speakers will play @ 96db and 90 db - respectively.

So..................

Your better off listening to speakers and making a decision on that - not on a spec sheet. If I remember correctly that receiver was pretty well powered. That's a whole 'nother topic as far as how receiver power is rated.

I'm not saying not to buy online - but listen in person. Everyone has their own taste as to what sounds good.

 

[TYRODD]

Watts = how much power (essentially) the speaker can handle. However, this isn't always going to be totally true. I'd say more speakers are cooked because of distortion - not being over driven from the headunit. An underpowered head unit will clip (overdriven) sending distortion to the speaker. You are better off providing more power to a speaker than not enough to get the same volume.

Absolutely, I run less than 200watts to my fosgate sub, that is not a lot at all, in fact it could handle more than double that. However, I have destroyed the previous fosgate 12" because I had the amp up to its limits and it sent out a distorted bass signal to my sub and bye-bye.

 

[Loeryder]

You are corrrect, Power doesn't blow as many speakers as distortion does.

Turning the gain way up on your amp or your preamp signal will clip the waves off the signal creating distortion.
This is the crackle noise you hear just before you blow the speaker and the coil or spider is already shot.


For speakers i am running all Infinity Kappas that I listend to in person then bought online. :wink:

 

[InvisiBill]

I'm a Kenwood fan. Still have to get a sweet eXcelon to replace my crappy Sony...

The stock S-10 speaker locations are about as bad as possible. Bass likes to be bounced off glass because it reflects ok and basically just gives a longer wavelength (lower frequency) - that's why everyone fires their subs at the glass of their hatchback. But higher frequencies get messed up when being bounced off glass. You know, like when you have 4x6's pointed right at a windshield.

The rear speakers are in a pretty bad location too, especially in a standard cab. It messes with the imaging and makes it sound like the music is only coming from two diagonal corners.

Your best bet is probably to get kick panels. They replace the plastic trim pieces on the side, and let you mount a 5.25" or 6" and a tweeter in a pretty good location. You'd just have to run speaker wire down there and replace the trim panel on the side.

If you want to stay stock, the front speaker areas are quite shallow. I've trimmed down the "spacer" mouldings around the mounting posts to give more room under the speaker. The magnet tends to hit on the air duct or ECM bracket.

 

[Syclone#1992]

I just got some 4x6's and they don't fit right. I can't get them to sit down flat? Any ideas? They are only couple of centimeters off.

 

[MyTyphoon1993]

I just got some 4x6's and they don't fit right. I can't get them to sit down flat? Any ideas? They are only couple of centimeters off.

I think we had that problem in the blazer, in the end in order for the grill to fit we made some custom brackets.

 

[TYRODD]

I just got some 4x6's and they don't fit right. I can't get them to sit down flat? Any ideas? They are only couple of centimeters off.

Try cutting the ears/hooks off of the grill, that way they can be lowered straight in.

 

[RichzGT]

Standard cab speakers....

Standard cab speakers....

I've got a Sonoma GT and I decided to go with VXC83 component set up from Visonik from Summit Racing for $149.99:

http://store.summitracing.com/defau...tpart&searchtype=both&part=VIS-VXC83&x=14&y=9

This set up has two 8" sub's, two 4" midrange, and two surface mount 1" tweeters and the crossovers needed to send the right frequency to each of the six speakers.

I will mount the 4" midrange in the stock dash locations, the tweeters will be mounted at the top of ther pillar post trim panels & I will build either a single box with two compartments or possibly two seperate boxes for the 8" subs. I really wish that I could fit low profile boxes under the seats but that is highly unlikely. The subs have a 3.75" mounting depth so they will more than likely be too deep to put anywhere except behind the rear seats.

They should absolutely ROCK ::thumbsup:: with a moderate amp. Take a look at them at:


http://www.visonikcaraudio.com/sub/products/componentsys.html

 

[InvisiBill]

I just got some 4x6's and they don't fit right. I can't get them to sit down flat? Any ideas? They are only couple of centimeters off.

Try cutting the ears/hooks off of the grill, that way they can be lowered straight in.

Yup. I've seen two sortof-related problems. There are + shaped tabs around the speaker mounting posts on the grille. If you trim those down, the speaker can sit closer to the grille. If you have a deep magnet, it can hit the air duct and/or ECM bracket.

 

[GAShan]

For the Sy Eclipse 4x6 and 4x10. 4x10 choices are limited, but I auditioned a 1/2 dozen in my truck. I'm in the business so I have access to anything on the shelf to try. Same Eclipses in the Ty dash but rears are 6x9 so there are lots more choices. I went with the Rockford HPC's.

 

[Guest]

Hey guys, what's it take to install the 4x6's in the dash? Can they be pull up out of the dash, or do u have to go from underneath? Or just simply tear the whole dash apart? :roll:

My syclone could use some CLEAR sounding treble up front.

 

[GAShan]

Remove the two screws from each speaker grill. Carefully using a hook tool pull up on the edge of the grill farthest from the glass, closest to you. Once you can get your fingers on the edge of the grill pull up and away from the dash to release two hooks on the back of the grill that go under the padded part of the dash. Unplug the speaker connector on the speaker but be careful not to let it drop down into the dash where you can't reach it. When replacing the speakers be sure to make a tight seal between the speaker and the grill. If there is a gap you will lose a lot of sound. I like to use the 4x6 plastic spacers that come with certain Blaupunkt and Pioneer speakers to make the mount air tight.

 

[Guest]

Thanks Gary, good to see you on the boards still. Is there a chance we'll see ya at the nats?

 

[SonomaGTlover]

I replaced the dash speakers in my SoGT and used what they called 4x6 PLATE speakers. It's an off centered round speaker and separate tweeters mounted next to it. They fit in like a glove with no problems at all.