When to go with alky?

[jbone]

I know there have been plenty of posts and believe me I looked at them all through many searches but I found nothing that answers my question.When do I go with alky injection??
What mods should I have before I do it? Right now I just have an intake, exhaust, aux. IC, Walbro 255, afpr, and pitbull chip. I plan on doing ultimate chip Id like to stick w/ the stock turbo/motor/heads. and focus primarily on bolt ons, tuning, and weight reduction. Im looking for high 12's. And I will have DM soon (hopefully). Im just wondering what else I need before going with alky or does it not matter? Any advice would help. Thanks in advance. :tup: (And again I did plenty of searches and didnt really find my answer)

 

[jwaller]

Re: When to go with alky?

it's always a good time for alky. no matter what your state of build it will most likly help you control deto and IAT temps.

 

[PPI Typhoon]

Re: When to go with alky?

Yep, just a simple system on a stock truck set to turn on at 10psi....it's an amazing difference. It just gets better from there.

If you want 12's.....it's not too hard. I did a 13.1 on a stock turbo on it's last leg. Only mods I had were alky, 3-bar, no muffler, and a K&N. This was on a stock fuel system (no AFPR or Walbro installed).

 

[blk00z28]

Re: When to go with alky?

If you beat on the truck alot you'll be happy with it. But if you use it as a DD and dont really get into boost alot then there is no point in having it. I would base's it off of how your truck runs right now and if you plan on upping the boost. If so how much?

 

[SyTyJedi]

Re: When to go with alky?

I would add it to a stock truck as one of the first mods if I bought another. It doesn't matter how stock or modified you are, you will see some benefit.

I would say it adds a bit of safety on the stock truck setup - what if you haven't replaced your fuel pump with a high flow unit yet? It can definitely help suppress detonation no matter what the setup. It only takes getting into boost and going very lean one time to put a rod thru the side of the block or a hole in the piston. It should help clean up the inside of the intake, head ports, and chambers as well. Clean is good.

 

[jbone]

Re: When to go with alky?

Well I do plan on uping the boost but I guess I need to ebe careful with the stock turbo. It is my DD during the spring/summer but I do get into boost ALOT . How hard is it to tune? I hear it can be a PITA.

 

[jbone]

Re: When to go with alky?

Yep, just a simple system on a stock truck set to turn on at 10psi....it's an amazing difference. It just gets better from there.

If you want 12's.....it's not too hard. I did a 13.1 on a stock turbo on it's last leg. Only mods I had were alky, 3-bar, no muffler, and a K&N. This was on a stock fuel system (no AFPR or Walbro installed).

how much boost were you running?

 

[blk00z28]

Re: When to go with alky?

well I dont know if my setup will tell you anything there there is alot of fuel taking out of my tune because of my meth. So much taken out infact I hit 14's on the WB02 if its off and I go over a few pounds of boost.. (and I push 23-25psi with it on..)

 

[nallj92]

Re: When to go with alky?

alky is my best mod so far, 20lbs on stock turbo and alky is perfect, ppi knows a lot about stock setup and alky, also wade is doing wonders with a stock turbo ty, get a hold of him.

 

[1643 TYPHOON]

Re: When to go with alky?

i would like to know how much safe boost i can run with alky - i have a 60mm know and i was at 18psi without alky I realize that there are a bunch of variables that effect this but a general range. ???

i would hope that i could get at least 25psi - with the alky . With my new front mount intercooler that is bigger and far better than the old setup I had i Should see a noticable differance in power and flow.

Tommy Quest -- said that blow off is bad with the alky for blow back into the atmosphire ? Is this true on all setups -

my BOV sit's behind the passenger head light on my upper intercooler pipe, is this far enought back from the T/B that blow back of alky would be minimal ??

Does the BOV need to be taken out of the picture.

I want the alky and i would like to keep the BOV if possible - any Suggestions.

Any info will be appreciated.

 

[Mephisto]

Re: When to go with alky?

i like to think of it this way... if you go to the track and buy 101+ octane youre looking at a minimum of $6 a gallon. now if youre a hardcore racer and dont want a full tank weighing you down, you toss in a half a tank or 2/3rds... so youre spending anywhere from $60-$100 on race gas. 7 trips to the track and you coulda bought an alky kit.

if you only have access to 91 oct like me, your truck is getting some knock under boost. how many times have you been out cruising around when you come across someone that needs to be taught a lesson in SyTy? but! youre hesitant to lay the smack down cause youve only got 91 in the tank and dont want to risk that 20* knock spike that sends a rod through your block. so what are you going to do? try to race over to the station across town that sells 101oct, fill up, then go find the guy? i like to think alky is like having high octane gas on tap whenever you need it.

I dunno about you but i like that idea a lot more than paying those f'n a-holes that just got through gouging us on gas for the last 6 months so they could make record high profits of 30 billion!!:rant:

or am i way off?

 

[Tommyquest]

Re: When to go with alky?

Tommy Quest -- said that blow off is bad with the alky for blow back into the atmosphire ?

Not exactly what I said . Because of the position of my BOV in relation to the DP Nolan recommended I not use a BOV because of the risk of residual alcohol in the tubing blowing down onto the DP on decel, potentially causing a flash/fire.

 

[CRUZZY]

Re: When to go with alky?

I know there have been plenty of posts and believe me I looked at them all through many searches but I found nothing that answers my question.When do I go with alky injection??
What mods should I have before I do it? Right now I just have an intake, exhaust, aux. IC, Walbro 255, afpr, and pitbull chip. I plan on doing ultimate chip Id like to stick w/ the stock turbo/motor/heads. and focus primarily on bolt ons, tuning, and weight reduction. Im looking for high 12's. And I will have DM soon (hopefully). Im just wondering what else I need before going with alky or does it not matter? Any advice would help. Thanks in advance. :tup: (And again I did plenty of searches and didnt really find my answer)

i would get it now before the first of the year when they go up !!! :2cents:

www.alkycontrol.com

 

[blk00z28]

Re: When to go with alky?

i would like to know how much safe boost i can run with alky - i have a 60mm know and i was at 18psi without alky I realize that there are a bunch of variables that effect this but a general range. ???

i would hope that i could get at least 25psi - with the alky . With my new front mount intercooler that is bigger and far better than the old setup I had i Should see a noticable differance in power and flow..

Depends on your tune. From the looks of your sig your still somewhat stock motor wise. So get someone to tune it for your setup (if you can get someone to tune your truck in person that would be the best though, but thats kinda hard..) and you should be able to push high boost limits. I run 23-25 all the time.. :lol: (Cant tell you how much knock though, I'll know that soon though.)

 

[1643 TYPHOON]

Re: When to go with alky?

tommy, you think that i can use the alky and have the BOV by my headlight ?
do you think that it will be an issue

My pipes are being welded up this weekend and I am not going to want to have an upper pipe made again.??

 

[blk00z28]

Re: When to go with alky?

I still think it might be a fire risk. But then again you may never have a problem with it.. :dunno:

I dont see how it would cause a problem if you spray the alky close to the TB. I mean as long as your BOV isnt right next to it I dont see it being that big of deal. And if you really wanna keep the BOV maybe think about moving it farther away from the TB.. I dont know to much about the BOV's so I think someone else should chime in here and post a comment as well.

 

[Jer]

Re: When to go with alky?

I mounted my BOV on an intake pipe after the FMIC that goes down under the steering box and it's pointed down towards the ground just in case there's some meth in the intake charge that gets sneezed out. It would have been MUCH easier to mount it up by the intake but would have put it right above the hot exhaust... decided it wasn't worth the risk.

Oh yeah, I won't own a turbo charged vehicle w/o alky now... stock or not.

 

[jbone]

Re: When to go with alky?

I just wish I had made this post a while back when i had the $$. Not to mention dropping major $$ on a new ATV (a xmas present for myself). I wish I could buy one while their still cheap but xmas is around the corner and I have many loan/credit payments to make
Hopefully ill get it soon.

 

[QUICK STORM]

Re: When to go with alky?

i haven't installed my HKS BOV yet and i want to get alky. my intercooler piping has a bung in it for alky and i have a KB a2a intercooler. should i mount the BOV as far away from the TB, like near the headlight to be safe?

 

[Tommyquest]

Re: When to go with alky?

tommy, you think that i can use the alky and have the BOV by my headlight ?
do you think that it will be an issue

My pipes are being welded up this weekend and I am not going to want to have an upper pipe made again.??

Jay, I don't think it will be a problem. By the way I met Joe a couple days ago at Autozone, nice guy.