Why Mod an engine?

wildphil

wildphil

I Love My Ty's
I just don't understand it. Members spend so much money to buy the best go fast parts. Then when they finish there build. The truck runs worse than stock. Or it runs great. But not for long and the engine is blown.

I urge other members. Please if you are going to mod your engine. Do like I did when when I ask a couple of members here. That are regarded as SyTy gurus by many members(myself included). I was told to learn how to tune. And before I did any mods to my truck. Was to get it running great stock first. Then start to modify the engine.


To get a engine running its best it will have to be set up so the tune can be changed. Even a stock engine would benifit from this. Now I don't claim to be an expert. Or even good at tuning. But right now my truck is running very well. I haven't done all the tuning on my own. I have ask a lot of question and had tuning help from members here. There are some great very helpful members on this board.

I'm just passing on some info that I was given by some long time members here. In hopes that it will serve others.
 
RUSSELL ZR1

RUSSELL ZR1

New member
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what equiptment did you get started with when you set out to learn to tune? im interested in getting into that part, but don't know where to start..
 
wildphil

wildphil

I Love My Ty's
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RUSSELL ZR1 said:
what equiptment did you get started with when you set out to learn to tune? im interested in getting into that part, but don't know where to start..
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The cheapest and the way most members here use is Code59. There is a link on this forum. If you look at the chipping area. It has a code59 link.

On the code59 forum it has a section that tells you the equiptment needed and how to set it up. It is a great site. If you can't find what you need. Post over on that site or come back over here and post in our chipping section. Lots of members to help you out.
 
BMFB

BMFB

Not to scale
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I agree, thats what I did on my truck before it was modded, and it got me some great results. tons of support on here, but you have to be willing to teach yourself some of it. There are ton of places where peopel have explained things in past posts.
 
wildphil

wildphil

I Love My Ty's
Chest Rockwell

Chest Rockwell

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wildphil said:
The cheapest and the way most members here use is Code59. There is a link on this forum. If you look at the chipping area. It has a code59 link.

On the code59 forum it has a section that tells you the equiptment needed and how to set it up. It is a great site. If you can't find what you need. Post over on that site or come back over here and post in our chipping section. Lots of members to help you out.
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I like what Phil said here. There's several guys on the board that I can't thank enough for what probably seemed like nothing. A few guys seem to enjoy the challenge of unlocking the potential in someone's truck, and doing what they can to help.
 
JSM

JSM

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Are you saying this is like making sure you have tiolet paper before you go take a shit?

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jharrison

jharrison

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In my case I never had the option to "get it running right" before modding it. I bought the truck with oil pressure problems (bad cam bearings), and adopted the "while I'm in here I might as well....." mentality. The truck wasn't all stock it had some mods on it, and some were done correctly while others wern't. I feel better with a clean slate, rather than something that has had who knows how many hands on and at what level of experience.
 
sleeper92

sleeper92

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jharrison said:
In my case I never had the option to "get it running right" before modding it. I bought the truck with oil pressure problems (bad cam bearings), and adopted the "while I'm in here I might as well....." mentality. The truck wasn't all stock it had some mods on it, and some were done correctly while others wern't. I feel better with a clean slate, rather than something that has had who knows how many hands on and at what level of experience.
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I am the same way, even though I haven't started yet. I bought my first Ty last weekend, and its in desperate need of a rebuild. I was actually going to ask for help in a week or so when I started on it, for proven budget build recipes, tuning advice, etc., when I started working on it. The last thing I need is to spend money on perfecting a stock rebuild when I would pull it right back apart upon completion. That being said, I'll be asking for advice in my own thread a little bit down the road. :turbo:
 
wildphil

wildphil

I Love My Ty's
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jharrison said:
In my case I never had the option to "get it running right" before modding it. I bought the truck with oil pressure problems (bad cam bearings), and adopted the "while I'm in here I might as well....." mentality. The truck wasn't all stock it had some mods on it, and some were done correctly while others wern't. I feel better with a clean slate, rather than something that has had who knows how many hands on and at what level of experience.
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Yes, sometimes the situation you have comes along. But you would benifit if you set it up to tune. It is very easy to damage one of our engines. Tuning is the only way to get the afr correct.

At least get a data logging program like datamaster. And you can tell if it is knocking. Also the afr.
 
M

MikeRenz

not stock
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its more fun to buy new mods than it is to spend money fixing (sometimes unknown) issues. The "i'll deal with that later" mentality isn't as forgiving with these trucks as other vehicles that newer owners adapt from.

Others just get in over their head...assuming it will be easy since so many others have done it. Some are just too impatient to work out kinks before turning up the boost and taking it to the track and making a full pass on a half tune to "see where they're at."

It's more a case of unfortunate than unintelligent.

Even a strong running and/or tuned truck can blow up with ease if you don't maintain the thing and have a good sense of what's going on. It's not like Code $59 is some magical entity that ensures your truck will never go boom.
 
jharrison

jharrison

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Yes, sometimes the situation you have comes along. But you would benifit if you set it up to tune. It is very easy to damage one of our engines. Tuning is the only way to get the afr correct.

At least get a data logging program like datamaster. And you can tell if it is knocking. Also the afr.
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Yes sir, that's what I did. My first purchase for this truck was Datamaster. As for tuning Mike Lee at RPM is burning a custom tune (16 bin chip) since he built my motor, I guess this would be a "coarse" tune to get me close, then "fine" tuning would be up to me. Wideband O2, fuel, & boost gauges are installed. Only other variables are the AEM boost controller and the Alky control kit.
 
wildphil

wildphil

I Love My Ty's
Re: Why Mod an engine?

jharrison said:
Yes sir, that's what I did. My first purchase for this truck was Datamaster. As for tuning Mike Lee at RPM is burning a custom tune (16 bin chip) since he built my motor, I guess this would be a "coarse" tune to get me close, then "fine" tuning would be up to me. Wideband O2, fuel, & boost gauges are installed. Only other variables are the AEM boost controller and the Alky control kit.
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Sounds like a good plan. With the mods I see in your signature. Your gonna have a very strong truck. It should be a lot of fun to drive.
 
Flyin Ryan

Flyin Ryan

hated cuz he drives fords
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Problem is these trucks were built half ass from go.. so you have to be anal with data logging and tune if you actually plan on using the truck for it's intended purpose and still be able to drive it home afterwords.

Tuning isn't as easy to learn as most other methods out there for other cars so it's easy to scare off people
 
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