Checking piston to valve clearance

Sy Guy 0024

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How do you guys check piston to valve clearance? Do you use some of the low-tension checker springs like the comp 4758-2? I've read that you can use these or a solid lifter in place of the hydraulic lifter, figured a checker spring would be the better way but wanted to check.

I've got a 422 cam with 1.5RRs and want to make sure I have clearance with my SRP pistons.
 

nallj92

Active member
Re: Checking piston to valve clearance

ive got a 422 with 1.6rr's and flat top pistons, no problems here, i wouldnt worry about it
 

James Thomas

"NO CLASS"
Re: Checking piston to valve clearance

I took two lifters and just put a little "spot weld" on each side of the retainer to hold it.

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James
 

Sy Guy 0024

Member
Re: Checking piston to valve clearance

I want to check my clearances. With the luck I have, something will end up hitting if I don't check.

Thanks for the ideas, guys. They seem pretty simple now that you mention it, but I never would have thought of them. :tup:
 

turbodig

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Re: Checking piston to valve clearance

DaveP6999 said:
The modeling clay on the piston technique works as well. Don't need to change springs. Use an old head gasket with just a few bolts snugged down. Used hydraulic lifters usually retain enough oil that they won't compress easially. just watch the inner plunger as you turn it. Or take an old used lifter, dissassemble it, and fill the bottom with washers or epoxy to make it a 'solid'.

some ideas,
DaveP


That's what I did.. pull the snapring on the plunger, and stack a bunch of washers in there.
Cheapie cam-lift checking lifter.
 

THEMADTYPH00N

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Re: Checking piston to valve clearance

The modeling clay method is probably the most accurate but if you don't want to remove a head you can do it this way. Put a dial indicator on the rocker arm tip. Depress the rocker arm till the valve hits the piston. The distance you moved the rocker by hand is your piston to valve clearance. You should do this at about 5* increments through both the intake valve opening and exhaust valve opening to find where clearance is the tightest.
 

JSM

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Re: Checking piston to valve clearance

THEMADTYPH00N said:
The modeling clay method is probably the most accurate but if you don't want to remove a head you can do it this way. Put a dial indicator on the rocker arm tip. Depress the rocker arm till the valve hits the piston. The distance you moved the rocker by hand is your piston to valve clearance. You should do this at about 5* increments through both the intake valve opening and exhaust valve opening to find where clearance is the tightest.

:tup:

Most people assume the tightest clearance is at peak lift. That is not that case most of the time.
 

Syclone #1721

I LOVE 4UM SUPERSTARS
Re: Checking piston to valve clearance

I have an awesome checking method that I came up with over the years I spent as an automitive machinist/ engine builder. Nothing is more accurate than this. Much more effective than the clay. Note that this is only for piston to valve clearance and not the radial clearance. For the radial clearance, the clay is the best and really only effective method. Heres what you do:
Install the lightweight checking springs that you spoke about from Comp and a solid lifter or a modified hydraulic lifter like the other guys spoke about above. (I used to use 2.8 Ford rocker shaft springs, Im Cheap) now with those installed, adjust the rockers to zero lash. (If you are even attempting this, Ill assume you know what zero lash is) Rotate the engine 2 full revolutions to make sure there is no contact. Now take a pack of feeler gauges and stack up .080 worth and insert between the rocker arm and valve tip. Again rotate the engine. If you feel interference, STOP and subtract shims a little at a time until there is no contact. This will be you piston to valve clearance. If no contact between the valve and piston, continue to add feelers .020 at a shot until you feel the valve touch the piston as you rotate the engine.(you can also choose to stop here if you arent interested in knowing exactly what you have becasue if it turns freely with .080 installed, sufficent clearance is present. If you want to know exactly what you have, well then carry on) Once it touches, subtract feelers in very small incrememnts like .002 at a time rotating in between each change until you feel no contact. Once no contact is made, you have your piston to valve clearance. NOW THE DISCLAIMER. Be very very careful when rotating the engine around. You dont want to muscle the engine around and possibly bend a valve. Take it slow and you will end up with perfect results. Keep in mind that I used to do this with one piston installed in the engine and no rings on the piston while mocking up and blueprinting. It is just as effective with the engine assembled, just a little more care needs to be taken. Hope this helps. If I can answer any questions about anything engine related, feel free to pm. Always willing to lend a helping hand to a fellow SyTY owner. :tup:
 

THEMADTYPH00N

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Re: Checking piston to valve clearance

JS Manufacturing said:
:tup:

Most people assume the tightest clearance is at peak lift. That is not that case most of the time.

I've found also people assume its closest on the intake side when the exhaust is usually closer.
 
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