Exhaust question

88GTZ

Donating Member
Since finding out flowmasters have too much backpressure, I'm wondering if I can remove my cat and be okay with the stock wastegate. Thanks in advance, Joe
 

phoonTy

Truckless. For now.
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Since finding out flowmasters have too much backpressure, I'm wondering if I can remove my cat and be okay with the stock wastegate. Thanks in advance, Joe

Nope. Especially with as cool as the air can get in Alamosa. You'll overboost easily.

You'd do better with a good manual or electronic controller, but would have to watch things when the temps start dropping.
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
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I would guess it would have boost control issues (it would atelast change your boost control). I put in a high flow cat and I had a Borla catback and my stock turbo had boost creep.
 

88GTZ

Donating Member
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Damn it, I really don't want to cut up my new exhaust and the cat has something loose in it and rattles its driving me freakin nuts lol. Has anyone tried running 2 high flow cats?
 

phoonTy

Truckless. For now.
Re: Exhuast question

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I would guess it would have boost control issues (it would atelast change your boost control). I put in a high flow cat and I had a Borla catback and my stock turbo had boost creep.

Yup. I had a high flow cat and a Greddy Profec B on my truck. Most of the time, boost control was rock solid. But in the fall/winter/early spring, I'd have to watch things. Pretty easy to spike boost.
 

88GTZ

Donating Member
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You're right about the cold air up here, I've seen my iat -10 on datamaster just driving down the highway lol.
 

csmwiese

New member
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Nope. Especially with as cool as the air can get in Alamosa. You'll overboost easily.

You'd do better with a good manual or electronic controller, but would have to watch things when the temps start dropping.

As a new Syclone owner myself, I too need to make changes to my exhaust do to some spots rusting and was going to remove my Cat also. Not knowing exactly what you are referring to, what would be a "Manual Boost Control"? Is that a BOV and if so where is te best place to install it?

Also, just asking....you guys say Flow Masters have to much back pressure but the stock mufflers don't seem to be a straight through design either and they seem to work fine??? please explain.

Thanks, Clint
 

TYTILIDIE

METH HEAD
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Some trucks overboost and some don't. Mine didn't. If you are going to tune the truck I have been finding the stock controller works pretty damn good. Just have to have the balls try it out. With code59, you should be able to control your boost with no exhaust.
 

88GTZ

Donating Member
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But I'm not code 59 yet and I want rid of that rattle you heard it, and I don't want to put a pos stock cat back on it.
 

dgoodhue

BuSTeD 4.3
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IMO run a high flow cat if you need a new one. My truck would creep upto 16psi in 3rd gear during a 1/4 mile run (even with the solenoid disconnected, so I should have been getting 8-9psi). My truck didn't overboost though (unless I was planing on running less than 16psi).
 

88GTZ

Donating Member
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I've seen my truck at 16 # a couple of times, I'll just watch it and put a high flow cat on.
 

TYTILIDIE

METH HEAD
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I had a high flow 3" cat with no muffler and my truck ran awesome like that. It was fairly tame sounding too. Not too loud, not too quiet. The wife's Ty had a hollowed out cat and a straight through muffler. You rode in it so you know what that sounds like. Do you have to get emissions down there?
 

88GTZ

Donating Member
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Hell no!!!! no emissons hahahaha, so I think I'll just cut the cat out and leave the flowmaster...
 

It's just a six

Super Member
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Get rid of the Flowmaster & port your stock turbos wastegate hole bigger for better/more flow.:2cents:

The Flow master will slow down the turbo spooling. Causing the engine to boost slowly.
 

berzerker

wookie
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ditch the cat , put a good muffler on it . i.e. magnaflow , the round unit like the atr units sound awsome . flowmasters are for 5.0 stangs and muscle cars .
 

sy538

New member
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... With code59, you should be able to control your boost with no exhaust.

Maybe it's the elevation, but our experiences have been very different. No boost controller can make the door open more then physically possible. I have no doubt that no cat and a stock turbo would have destroyed my engine on the first wot.












I wanted to know if it would hurt my truck without the cat...

Will it hurt yours? We can't tell you for sure, but it might.

With just a downpipe and the actuator rod disconnected from the lever on the wastegate door, which in theory would result in 0 boost, my truck would have made way too much boost, I wouldn't be surprised if it would make 25+ psi. I could not go more then about 60% throttle before getting kr.

I now have a 10cm exhaust housing on the stock turbo, no cat and a 2.5" see through muffler and it still makes a little too much boost.


http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=58329
 

TYTILIDIE

METH HEAD
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I didnt mean dont use a controller. I meant the controller IS capable of controlling the boost with no exhaust. I have no doubt you guys arent seeing those issues and that it could very well be altitude related. But with tuning, he could make it work with no exhaust. We may as well not have exhaust oin our truck and I pretty much didnt have it on mine and I was always able to control it with a controller.
 

sy538

New member
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I didnt mean dont use a controller.
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I understood, I was just saying with no boost control at all, wastegate 100% open 100% of the time, with stock turbo and no cat, my truck would over boost at anything more then 60% throttle. That was downpipe only though, no mufflers or anything else.

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I meant the controller IS capable of controlling the boost with no exhaust. ... But with tuning, he could make it work with no exhaust.
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Only if his internal gate can flow enough. Yours can and that's great. Mine couldn't, not even remotely close. Mine is still slightly too small with the next size up exhaust housing.
 
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