How important is matching #'s
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13Pelle
Active member
Re: How important is matching #'s
Agreed,,,,matching numbers on a modded to hell truck means nothing to me.
Agreed,,,,matching numbers on a modded to hell truck means nothing to me.
Blazerspeed
New member
Re: How important is matching #'s
I've never seen the appeal to an all numbers matching low mileage vehicle. All that says to me is that it sits in your garage/giant display case and never gets a chance to stretch it's legs.
numbers matching cars are unappreciated status symbols owned by people with too much money chasing a concourse trophy.
I've never seen the appeal to an all numbers matching low mileage vehicle. All that says to me is that it sits in your garage/giant display case and never gets a chance to stretch it's legs.
numbers matching cars are unappreciated status symbols owned by people with too much money chasing a concourse trophy.
warmpancakes
New member
Re: How important is matching #'s
right now theres minimal value added, down the road figure 15% and up
right now theres minimal value added, down the road figure 15% and up
GAShan
Donating Member
Re: How important is matching #'s
On SyTy's the collectibility factor is still so low that mods, miles and condition still seem to be the most important criteria. If it follows along with the rest of the collector world, in the future the big money trucks will be low mile, unmodified, matching number cars, just like with old muscle cars and exotics. A lot of the SyTy's wouldn't qualifiy under this standard for having replacement engines and tranny's while still under warranty. Vintage cars with date correct replacement parts don't bring what true matching number ones do.
On SyTy's the collectibility factor is still so low that mods, miles and condition still seem to be the most important criteria. If it follows along with the rest of the collector world, in the future the big money trucks will be low mile, unmodified, matching number cars, just like with old muscle cars and exotics. A lot of the SyTy's wouldn't qualifiy under this standard for having replacement engines and tranny's while still under warranty. Vintage cars with date correct replacement parts don't bring what true matching number ones do.
warmpancakes
New member
Re: How important is matching #'s
somebody needs to post correct and clear images of the block and trans numbers
somebody needs to post correct and clear images of the block and trans numbers
jklein68
Donating Member
Re: How important is matching #'s
I think that matching numbers can add some value. There is still somewhat of a wow factor for totally original vehicles. I was excited to find out that my Ty had the motor and transmission replaced before I had purchased it. I then didn't have to feel "bad" about modding my truck because it already wasn't original.
I think that matching numbers can add some value. There is still somewhat of a wow factor for totally original vehicles. I was excited to find out that my Ty had the motor and transmission replaced before I had purchased it. I then didn't have to feel "bad" about modding my truck because it already wasn't original.
dgoodhue
BuSTeD 4.3
Re: How important is matching #'s
Some people want that brand new or nearly new car (Syclone or Typhoon) circa when they came out in the early 90's for Nostalgia. Their are different level of number matching as well, the Block/Trans is well known, but many other parts can be date coded. I am personally not so much into date coding down the level of hoses etc.
Why would you prefer the original parts? Many replacement parts are not like the originals, even GM replacement parts aren't always the same as the original ones.
Someone who wants a 'new' Syclone may not want a 92 Balance Shaft Block, with a Blazer Transmission and soft shifts. Even things like AC compressor/Belt Tensioner/Water Pump/Alternator can easily be replacements that aren't like the orignals.
Ideally someone who want a new Syclone doesn't want a cobbled together example and if it is reconstructed they would prefer a truck that looks like the original. Quick frankly their are lot cobble together SyTy's.
Some people want that brand new or nearly new car (Syclone or Typhoon) circa when they came out in the early 90's for Nostalgia. Their are different level of number matching as well, the Block/Trans is well known, but many other parts can be date coded. I am personally not so much into date coding down the level of hoses etc.
Why would you prefer the original parts? Many replacement parts are not like the originals, even GM replacement parts aren't always the same as the original ones.
Someone who wants a 'new' Syclone may not want a 92 Balance Shaft Block, with a Blazer Transmission and soft shifts. Even things like AC compressor/Belt Tensioner/Water Pump/Alternator can easily be replacements that aren't like the orignals.
Ideally someone who want a new Syclone doesn't want a cobbled together example and if it is reconstructed they would prefer a truck that looks like the original. Quick frankly their are lot cobble together SyTy's.
warmpancakes
New member
Re: How important is matching #'s
if you look at the build sheet thread the numbers for alot of items were recordes
if you look at the build sheet thread the numbers for alot of items were recordes
T-Bone
Active member
Re: How important is matching #'s
Yes, I do and in a few years, I am certain the prices paid for a low mileage MINT original Sy will affirm my input. A vehicle is only original 1 time and that seems to be attractive to collectors.
Yes, I do and in a few years, I am certain the prices paid for a low mileage MINT original Sy will affirm my input. A vehicle is only original 1 time and that seems to be attractive to collectors.
SY2455
70's Veteran
Re: How important is matching #'s
X 2 what he said. Our W-30 still has the factory paint job on it and it is 1 of the biggest reasons that I haven't repainted it.
X 2 what he said. Our W-30 still has the factory paint job on it and it is 1 of the biggest reasons that I haven't repainted it.
Beavis
Still plays with trucks
turbodig
Active member
Re: How important is matching #'s
With our trucks, this will get to be a difficult thing... all the dead trannies, all the dead motors.
There are decals that need to be in place, and the numbers were recorded for each VIN. The build documents link all the numbers together.
The only trucks that will meet that standard are the true originals.
Nobody around here likes to believe it, but the clean original ones can bring a decent market value when it comes time to sell. The modded ones barely anybody wants, unless they're high-dollar professional builds with a pedigree.
The classifieds and auction results are the proof.
With our trucks, this will get to be a difficult thing... all the dead trannies, all the dead motors.
There are decals that need to be in place, and the numbers were recorded for each VIN. The build documents link all the numbers together.
The only trucks that will meet that standard are the true originals.
Nobody around here likes to believe it, but the clean original ones can bring a decent market value when it comes time to sell. The modded ones barely anybody wants, unless they're high-dollar professional builds with a pedigree.
The classifieds and auction results are the proof.
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Quickstop [UK]
Combating adversyty.
Re: How important is matching #'s
Even that is too optimistic.
It's a turboed S10 that noone has heard of. A few may pay but for the most part, anyone investing in ANY of these trucks is a speculator.
It's not a sure thing.
Which is awesome because I love these things for some reason.
Even that is too optimistic.
It's a turboed S10 that noone has heard of. A few may pay but for the most part, anyone investing in ANY of these trucks is a speculator.
It's not a sure thing.
Which is awesome because I love these things for some reason.
SY2932
Administrator
Re: How important is matching #'s
X3. I bought my truck for ME to enjoy NOT someone else. Don't matter much since these trucks aren't ever going to be worth anything unless you have an ULTRA low mileage close to stock example. People don't want what they don't know about.
X3. I bought my truck for ME to enjoy NOT someone else. Don't matter much since these trucks aren't ever going to be worth anything unless you have an ULTRA low mileage close to stock example. People don't want what they don't know about.
GAShan
Donating Member
Re: How important is matching #'s
No one can really guess what will be valuable in the future. I passed on $3000 hemi Mopars, $700 440's, $400 '60's Mustang R codes, a $2200 mint '69 RAIII GTO Judge and a $10,000 Corvette LS-6 in the early and mid '80's. They were just old muscle cars with primitive driving characteristics. The cars I had and sold thinking I was getting all the money in the world for them would pay for my retirement and more now had I held onto them. And everyone with an old Dart, Duster, Nova or Maverick thinks they have gold and some are getting it. Those were cars we wouldn't even consider back when, that's what our grannies drove. At a certain point values go up just because the vehicles survived long enough. Who ever thought Biscaynes or Fairlanes would be desirable.
No one can really guess what will be valuable in the future. I passed on $3000 hemi Mopars, $700 440's, $400 '60's Mustang R codes, a $2200 mint '69 RAIII GTO Judge and a $10,000 Corvette LS-6 in the early and mid '80's. They were just old muscle cars with primitive driving characteristics. The cars I had and sold thinking I was getting all the money in the world for them would pay for my retirement and more now had I held onto them. And everyone with an old Dart, Duster, Nova or Maverick thinks they have gold and some are getting it. Those were cars we wouldn't even consider back when, that's what our grannies drove. At a certain point values go up just because the vehicles survived long enough. Who ever thought Biscaynes or Fairlanes would be desirable.
Beavis
Still plays with trucks
Re: How important is matching #'s
I origanally bought my truck with the idea of keeping it stock with just a "chip" to open it up some. Then I figuired out what the past 2 owners did to it and happened to it. So now I don't care, I will build it, beat it, and have fun cause mine wont ever bring high money like the rare muscles do.
I origanally bought my truck with the idea of keeping it stock with just a "chip" to open it up some. Then I figuired out what the past 2 owners did to it and happened to it. So now I don't care, I will build it, beat it, and have fun cause mine wont ever bring high money like the rare muscles do.