Stored Ty doesn't startup

Rexxenexx

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The Ty hasen't been started for a real long time. I put a new battery and a little more oil in it then tried to start it. The engine turns nice over but doesn't start. The gas level was pointing to the sky so I tought maybe the gas was too low. So I put almost 5 gal of gas in it and tried again but it was the same. Gauge was still pointing to the sky. I put a light test on the dist. and then from the coil and got nothing so I went and bought a new coil. When I cranked it it still didn't start but the gas gauge went to a little lower than halfway so it was finally working. Another thing I tried was pushing the shrader valve on the fuel rail while the key was ON and fuel did come out so the pump is working. I want to put a pressure gauge on the valve to see if it has good pressure but I don't have a p. gauge. What do you all think is a good place to look?
 

tnsyty

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Re: Stored Ty doesn't startup

If you have fuel on the fuel rail, I would start by looking for fire at the plugs. Then work your way up the ignition system from there. I let my Ty sit for very long periods of time, it sometimes it takes a little while to crank, but it starts everytime.
 

nightdiver

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Re: Stored Ty doesn't startup

Define "real long time"
If its more than two years , there might be gum in the injectors
 

Rexxenexx

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Re: Stored Ty doesn't startup

About 2 years. K today I put the light test on the coil and it lit up while cranking. I'll test from the plugs tonight if my friend doesnt whine and complain about wasting fri. night at my parents house. Actually thats my prob. the Ty is at my parents house and all my tools are at my house :p.
Anyway, It does seem like the fuel isn't having much pressure. When I pushed in the shrader valve yesterday it didn't spray it sort of poured out. Is it supposed to pour out like a mini water hose? It shot like 4" from the valve, that OK? I would think @40psi would fire farther than that, I could be wrong.
Tonight I'll have my friend (if he doesnt cry) push the valve all the way while I tap the pump test.
Is there any good way to clean + test the injectors at home w/o much tools? That might be it nightdriver. Even w low pressure the car should idle sloppy.

EDIT: forgot to say, I put a wire (fused of course) from the 12+ on the firewall and touched it to the fuel pump test. Either the fuel pump is quiet as hell or its dying. I didn't have enough hands to hold the test wire and push the valve so like I said before I'll try tonight to do that.
 

Loeryder

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Re: Stored Ty doesn't startup

Be careful with that wire arcing on the +12v post while you are spraying raw fuel out the shrader.

I didnt actually start a fire but had a pretty good scare while hooking up the fuel pump test relay with raw fuel on my hands.
Just use an alligator clip on the test wire to the junction post on teh firewall and you can open the gas tank and listen for the pump whine.

If the pump is not running while you are pushing the shrader in then all you are doing is relieving the pressure. Hook up a FP gauge to the rail and then hook your test wire.
Viola instant pressure test without disconnecting vac lines or even starting the truck.

Hope ya get it worked out.
We need more SyTys that actually run around here. :tup:
 

Rexxenexx

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Re: Stored Ty doesn't startup

Good idea Loeryder. I'm gonna hit Autozone to see if I could pickup a FP test kit. Much safer :)
 

fastturb

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Re: Stored Ty doesn't startup

check fuses particularly ECM. do you hear the fuel pump running?? if it ran when you parked it I bet she'll run now. good luck.
 

nightdiver

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Re: Stored Ty doesn't startup

I tried to fire up the truck with the stock injectors last year cause the new injectors were delayed from Mike. The old injectors looked fine. Truck woudnt start. Removed and took them for testing. FULL of gum ,the guy said . But the injectors were ten years old :)
 

Rexxenexx

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Re: Stored Ty doesn't startup

SY2455 said:
Rexxenexx Where you located at?
Rancho Palos Verdes



Ok Sun. we had a chance to test the pump w/ a Pressure gauge on the schrader valve. It was getting no pressure at all and for sure you can't hear the pump. So I'm gonna drop the tank and replace the pump w/ a 255 unit and change the filter while im at it. I'll try to do it over this weekend after I go to a family party I don't want to go to :D . Wish me luck! :p

EDIT: Just ordered the Racetronix kit http://www.racetronix.com/product/RX-TY-GSS340M-FPKG/Racetronix-SyTy_Pump_Kit.html
 
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Rexxenexx

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Re: Stored Ty doesn't startup

I'm gonna see if I could remove the rear bumper tonight maybe it'll make things easier? Do I need a rubber grommet for the filler neck? I replaced my Mustangs pump like 4 years ago and needed the filler neck grommet because there was a possibility of it tearing on removal. Anything else I should get to be safe?
 

nightdiver

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Re: Stored Ty doesn't startup

and get some glasses to protect your eyes from the dirt that will fall on your face.....
 

conlyn

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Re: Stored Ty doesn't startup

Let me know how your gas guage turns out, mine is doing the same thing post fuel pump install... I'm about the pull the tank agian to see if the sending unit or float is the problem.

Mine goes back to the right fuel level randomly.
 

Rexxenexx

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Re: Stored Ty doesn't startup

Try rocking your Ty. Mine did it last time I was there and I started rocking it and the level guage corrected itself. Their must be rust in the tank.

BTW Its gonna be at least a 4 or 5 days before I get the new pump. I really want to flatbed it to my garage so I have all my tools handy.
 
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