Torco test

[Don W.]

All summer I’ve been racing with a fellow who swears by Torco. He’s running a supercharged FW drive Buick, very consistently right at 14secs.

Also all summer I’ve been struggling with knock and spark retard because of it. I’ve even got the Sy running on 100% 100 octane race gas which helped a lot but still knock and retard are there. Base timing is set to about 2 degrees retard.

So anyway I decide to buy some Torco. This week at the track I arrive, as usual, with a little less than ½ tank. Instead of buying 5-6 gals of 100 I buy 6 gals of 96 and pour in 1 qt of Torco. Knock is way down and spark retard is almost non existent. I’m far from an expert on Datamaster so maybe I’m missing something but that’s the way I see it.

I think this stuff works. The obvious question is does the truck perform any better. Hard to say at this time. Nothing dramatic. My times do seem to be more consistent whatever that’s worth. Subjectively the truck seems to just run better. Infineon closes Nov 9, work may prevent racing every week until then. But I’ll keep you posted.

I’ve been running the Ultimate at T1 & 17 lbs. At T1 & 18lbs there was little improvement. (Turbo maxed out maybe?) I think next week I’ll try T2 & 17lbs and see what happens.

Here’s two DataMasters

www.sonic.net/~donpris/WithOutTorco.uni

www.sonic.net/~donpris/WithTorco.uni

 

[Timbo]

Re: Torco test

Honestly, I haven't heard any negative experiences with Torco yet. The folks on NASIOC seem to like it.

 

[syco 2]

Re: Torco test

Which One Did U Use And How Did U Mix It

 

[100in6]

Re: Torco test

why don't you try some torco race gas. comes in 110 and higher. i'll bet it works better than the additive. you might want to mix it to whatever works for you. for instance. use 5 gallons of 93 and 5 of 110. add together. 110 and 93 = 203 divide by 2 and you come up with 101 octane. you can spike it up or down and see how yours likes it. little tip... always go a little rich and you won't hurt the motor. i used to run torco and now others that do and they like it. i think my friend carl rossler uses it., but not the 110. they make a higher octane too. i just started to use cam2 because it was easier to get. if you try it please email me and let me know how you liked it. personally... i don't like octane boosters cause i think you get too little for your money and it's usually good for only a point or two. once you mix the stuff you can syphon most of it out and keep it for next time. it really won't hurt your o2 sensor if that's why you're running LL 100. i ran race fuel for a long time and never had a 02 sensor problem.

 

[Don W.]

Re: Torco test

Which One Did U Use And How Did U Mix It

I used Race Fuel Concentrate for unleaded. Comes in qt cans. Started with a little less that 1/2 tank of 100. Pored in the Torco and added 6 gals 96. Acording to the can this should take me to 104+. I'm interpolating what the can says based the blend I mentioned.

With 100 costing quite a bit more than 96 my goal is to see if 96 + Torco will give me better performance, meaning less knock/spark retard, for slightly less total cost.

No racing around here in the winter so some items for the truck are; Walbro, new front drive shaft, possible porting upper intake. Looking for better launch and maybe to slip into the 12's. We'll see what spring brings.

 

[Don W.]

Re: Torco test

why don't you try some torco race gas. comes in 110 and higher. i'll bet it works better than the additive. you might want to mix it to whatever works for you. for instance. use 5 gallons of 93 and 5 of 110. add together. 110 and 93 = 203 divide by 2 and you come up with 101 octane. you can spike it up or down and see how yours likes it. little tip... always go a little rich and you won't hurt the motor. i used to run torco and now others that do and they like it. i think my friend carl rossler uses it., but not the 110. they make a higher octane too. i just started to use cam2 because it was easier to get. if you try it please email me and let me know how you liked it. personally... i don't like octane boosters cause i think you get too little for your money and it's usually good for only a point or two. once you mix the stuff you can syphon most of it out and keep it for next time. it really won't hurt your o2 sensor if that's why you're running LL 100. i ran race fuel for a long time and never had a 02 sensor problem.

Supposedly Torco is not an octane booster but an accelerator. Whatever... I’ve tried the auto parts store octane boosters and got 0 results. This is one I can at least point to with the Datamaster files.


I'd like to go richer but if I read my Datamaster correctly my injectors are maxed out anyway. When I get the Walbro I'm gona jack up the FP. Just not in the budget until spring. Interesting that race gas doesn’t muck up the O2. Haven’t looked but I think that the over 100 race gas nozzle won’t fit so I’d have to do the tank thing. Nov 9 is the last race night if the weather doesn’t cancel us so after that it’s wait ‘till spring for now.

I'll check out Cam2 also.

Thanks for the comments.

 

[100in6]

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if your injectors are maxed out and you have a switcher box like the one phil long sells or a ultimate chip one you can run race gas and actually lean it out a little because of the increased octane. that's an old time remedy that guys did when they were running chips and stock injectors. you can either lean it out a little according to what your datamaster says, or depending on your tubo raise the boost a little and have no detonation because of the higher octane. trust me... your 02 will not die from putting a little leaded gas through it once in a while. it will kill it quicker but we're talking years of use not just a few times. running at the track is what i'm talking about not running race gas for daily driving. ask around if you don't believe me. all these guys running vp c16 type fuel are all running 02 setups and they're not killing them. i might be worth it to pick up a new one just in case yours dies on you someday, but it may not be in all that great of shape now. race fuel i think makes more power as well as cutting down on detonation.