Why dont we have this?

[VernonS]

They make all sorts of kits to put ls1 into every other car on the planet. When is someone goin to step up and make this a lil easier. Im sick of this 4.3 700r4 crap.

even bmw`s have it easy
http://www.nash8503.com/Conversion_Kits.html
http://www.vorshlag.com/product_info.php?cPath=0_1_4_63&products_id=141

 

[Captain Morgan]

Re: Why dont we have this?

yeah, too bad most of the BMW kids are for 3-Series, and mostly the E36 at that, so its really nothing substancial in the grand scheme of things. Everyone else is left to fab up on their own.

But, considering small block swaps into S-Series are a dime a dozen these days, its not really that hard to find all the parts needed to do an LSx swap into a SyTy.

Also, have you looked at some of the pieces for those BMW kits? I know one of them starts at around $8000 and still requires some stuff to complete it. Another place will do it for you for $14,000 turn key.

 

[VernonS]

Re: Why dont we have this?

i wana do a swap in my ty. But the more i read into it. The more lost i get of what i should start to accumulate for parts. Everyone does it different and runs into snags with mounts,pans,etc.... Ive done 3 s10 small block swaps with any speedbumps along the way. But i really dont want to tear into my ty and get stuck.

 

[jpalmer]

Re: Why dont we have this?

My buddy is slapping a LS2 in his 97'm3 widebody. he wants a LS7 but has not found one for a good price. he is having someone fab everything up though, but dont know why

 

[TYTILIDIE]

Re: Why dont we have this?

Whats wrong with the 4.3?:dunno: Have you thought about maybe looking in to a TBSS?

 

[blk00z28]

Re: Why dont we have this?

You own the wrong type of truck if you want easy.

 

[UK-Ty]

Re: Why dont we have this?

Dont like the 4.3 get another truck:chair: but thats just my opinion because i see it as the heart off the whole sy/ty truck. If its not a 4.3 i just dont see it as a true sy/ty.:dunno:

 

[VernonS]

Re: Why dont we have this?

I know that easy and sy/ty never belong in the same sentence. Dont get me wrong the 4.3 is a great lil powerplant. I would really hate to rip mine apart. But i have tranny issues and my 4.3 has had a troubled past i think. Its has never ran 100%. If it really came down to it i would prob buy a rpm engine and a 4l80e. I live in CT and havent really met anyone that can really give me a hand with tunning this thing. When it really comes down to it the ls1 is just a reliable awsome motor.

 

[turbodig]

Re: Why dont we have this?

If you have experience with the SBC swap, why not go that route?

Despite the popular conception, you can make lots of power with non-ls motors, and the parts are generally cheaper.

 

[TYTILIDIE]

Re: Why dont we have this?

If you have experience with the SBC swap, why not go that route?

Despite the popular conception, you can make lots of power with non-ls motors, and the parts are generally cheaper.

Generally?:lol: I'd say almost by half. I have contemplated it myself but I think It would be cheaper to a V8 blazer then get cladding for it. Especially with all the trucks being parted out these days.

FWIW, you are going to have to figure it all out. It took my a couple years to realize how bad I needed this site. But everything you need to know to get your truck running right is right here on this board. You are just going to have to break down and buy you some scan tools and a few bottles of excedrin:tup:

 

[turbodig]

Re: Why dont we have this?

Generally?:lol: I'd say almost by half. I have contemplated it myself but I think It would be cheaper to a V8 blazer then get cladding for it. Especially with all the trucks being parted out these days.

FWIW, you are going to have to figure it all out. It took my a couple years to realize how bad I needed this site. But everything you need to know to get your truck running right is right here on this board. You are just going to have to break down and buy you some scan tools and a few bottles of excedrin:tup:

I think the "grand illusion" that people talk themselves into is that they are going to have fewer problems with another motor type. Add up all the money + time, and you're talking about a wash.

A 4.3 can be very reliable. You have to really *think* about your engine combination, and get a tune that doesn't knock. And then, leave it alone.

There is no magic in one engine flavor over another. LS motors blow up. Small blocks blow up.
If you don't do a well thought out combo, you're screwed no matter which way you go.

The speed parts industry has lived on this principle for years- sell people shiny, mismatched crap, and they'll buy it, bolt it on, blow it up, and buy more, bigger, mismatched crap that doesn't work either.

Make no mistake- "tuning" was an issue in the carb world too. You just did it in a different way.

 

[Norm]

Re: Why dont we have this?

Make no mistake- "tuning" was an issue in the carb world too. You just did it in a different way.
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The problem there is half the people who want to go fast, have no real clue on how to tune. Getting something to run good is one thing, getting a performance engine to run great is a whole new ball of wax.

 

[BlaneSVT]

Re: Why dont we have this?

Im swapping an LS1 into my Sy. It was a hard decision since I liked the nostalgia of the turbo 6, but the main snag is with finding a reliable crankshaft for a decent price. Unless you want to get a billet race crank for a few grand youve got limited options. Seeing as how I snapped my crank in two, this was a big issue for me.

The 4.3 is not a bad motor by any means, but there is such a bigger aftermarket world for the LS motors, as its more popular.

I might also add that I am insane and want 800hp.....


Heres a link to the thread I just posted about this. http://www.syty.net/forums/showthread.php?t=64013

 

[VernonS]

Re: Why dont we have this?

I live in ct emmisions suck ass here. So thats kinda the prob. I can have a reliable 450 horse ls2 or build my 4.3 and fail emmisions. I wasnt lookin for someone to tell me its stupid to do the swap, because its far from it. I love my truck and love to drive it and the majority of people on here have broken trucks. Everyone with a ls swap has nothing but good things to say.it costs more to build a 4.3 than it does to buy a low millage ls and do the swap. I was just stating from my first post that there are complete swap kits out there for everything from bmw z3`s to rx7`s but nothing for the sy/ty`s.

 

[BlaneSVT]

Re: Why dont we have this?

I live in ct emmisions suck ass here. So thats kinda the prob. I can have a reliable 450 horse ls2 or build my 4.3 and fail emmisions. I wasnt lookin for someone to tell me its stupid to do the swap, because its far from it. I love my truck and love to drive it and the majority of people on here have broken trucks. Everyone with a ls swap has nothing but good things to say.it costs more to build a 4.3 than it does to buy a low millage ls and do the swap. I was just stating from my first post that there are complete swap kits out there for everything from bmw z3`s to rx7`s but nothing for the sy/ty`s.

Exactly why I decided to do the swap, cheaper and more reliable. Its too bad there isnt a swap kit with mounts and junk though.

 

[gkrcr882]

Re: Why dont we have this?

LS2's can fail emissions too, any engine can. With the right TUNING, the 4.3 can make the same power as a V8, and pass emissions. Granted, parts for the 4.3 are pricier than a standard 350 or an LS engine, but that's part of the game. The GN guys have more support for their engines, but as those cars age the community will grow smaller and smaller as well. We just have a head start on them, soon they will have to pay a premium for engine parts too.