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Converting to an "On-The-Block" Oil Filter
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UniqueTyph
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Re: Converting to an "On-The-Block" Oil Filter
Ok so I guess I am still new to the SyTy set up. I bought a Ty last year and have been feveroushly working on getting it back up and running. After copious amounts of body work and welding in new metal and redoing the entire front end and suspension I have started driving it occasionally.
I have noticed an oil leak and ckeck the oil every couple trips and add some if needed. Yesterday after getting home I noticed a small circle maybe 2 inches in diameter and a trail of drips heading from up the road, it was running in the driveway for maybe 2 minutes... I have cleaned up and replaced most gaskets up top without getting deep into the engine. Down below is all original..... I was thinking oil pan and gasket as well as the remote oil lines... Reading the few threads I could find I saw some had mentioned the filter on the block... I did this on my old blazer that had the 4.3L and some of the threads were talking about tapered adapters and dealing with the turbo oil lines?
I will replace the oil coolant lines if I need to because I am do not want to get too deep into this right now... just looking to stop the oil issue for a year or two until I can get funds for a more complete engine overhaul...
Can I get away with a filter or do I need something more... I could not figure out this thread with you guys talking about valves in the block or filter or what have you...
Ok so I guess I am still new to the SyTy set up. I bought a Ty last year and have been feveroushly working on getting it back up and running. After copious amounts of body work and welding in new metal and redoing the entire front end and suspension I have started driving it occasionally.
I have noticed an oil leak and ckeck the oil every couple trips and add some if needed. Yesterday after getting home I noticed a small circle maybe 2 inches in diameter and a trail of drips heading from up the road, it was running in the driveway for maybe 2 minutes... I have cleaned up and replaced most gaskets up top without getting deep into the engine. Down below is all original..... I was thinking oil pan and gasket as well as the remote oil lines... Reading the few threads I could find I saw some had mentioned the filter on the block... I did this on my old blazer that had the 4.3L and some of the threads were talking about tapered adapters and dealing with the turbo oil lines?
I will replace the oil coolant lines if I need to because I am do not want to get too deep into this right now... just looking to stop the oil issue for a year or two until I can get funds for a more complete engine overhaul...
Can I get away with a filter or do I need something more... I could not figure out this thread with you guys talking about valves in the block or filter or what have you...
leadfoot
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Re: Converting to an "On-The-Block" Oil Filter
Jags that run write up:
http://www.jagsthatrun.com/V6-instructions/4.3-V6-oil-cooler-removal.pdf
Jags that run write up:
http://www.jagsthatrun.com/V6-instructions/4.3-V6-oil-cooler-removal.pdf
UniqueTyph
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Re: Converting to an "On-The-Block" Oil Filter
Hey good to know. Thanks for the part info and write up, I will keep that in mind if the problem persists!
For those that mentioned the gaskets on the lines and block and the couple that mentioned my lack of proper time planning.... Over turkey day I brought the truck to my dads who has a lift. I got the idea from a couple guys at work to use roughly 2ft of extensions and reach through from the front around where the intercooler used to hang, run parallel to the pan and remove the 1/2in bolt that holds the lines to the adapter. Worked like a champ... Took the other two 1/2in bolts that hold the adapter to he block out an it dropped down like nothing. Scraped and lightly sanded off the old gaskets, cleaned in gas an reassembled in reverse order. Worked really well and oil leak has since been stopped. Don't know if anyone tackled it that way but it worked awesome.
Anyways thanks for links leadfoot!
Hey good to know. Thanks for the part info and write up, I will keep that in mind if the problem persists!
For those that mentioned the gaskets on the lines and block and the couple that mentioned my lack of proper time planning.... Over turkey day I brought the truck to my dads who has a lift. I got the idea from a couple guys at work to use roughly 2ft of extensions and reach through from the front around where the intercooler used to hang, run parallel to the pan and remove the 1/2in bolt that holds the lines to the adapter. Worked like a champ... Took the other two 1/2in bolts that hold the adapter to he block out an it dropped down like nothing. Scraped and lightly sanded off the old gaskets, cleaned in gas an reassembled in reverse order. Worked really well and oil leak has since been stopped. Don't know if anyone tackled it that way but it worked awesome.
Anyways thanks for links leadfoot!
13Pelle
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Re: Converting to an "On-The-Block" Oil Filter
Yes, it can be done with the engine in the truck.
Yes, it can be done with the engine in the truck.
Black Knight
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Re: Converting to an "On-The-Block" Oil Filter
Yes, the only PIA is getting the old lines out in one piece.
I gave up on the last two and took a sawzall to them
Yes, the only PIA is getting the old lines out in one piece.
I gave up on the last two and took a sawzall to them
Darin
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Re: Converting to an "On-The-Block" Oil Filter
Same here, but an angle grinder was my tool of choice.
Yes, the only PIA is getting the old lines out in one piece.
I gave up on the last two and took a sawzall to them
Same here, but an angle grinder was my tool of choice.
IpHoOnDyou
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Re: Converting to an "On-The-Block" Oil Filter
Bypass is in the block an yes a shorter filter. An thats all you need, an the fitting of course.
Bypass is in the block an yes a shorter filter. An thats all you need, an the fitting of course.
canadian
sy in progress
Re: Converting to an "On-The-Block" Oil Filter
OK, I'm in the middle of this conversion and I've managed to get every thing out. I'm at the point where I'm going to install the adapter into the block, but when removing the old adapter, it looks like there was a bunch of the gasket still stuck to the block side.
You can see it here, but the picture is crappy:
I've spent the better part of the last hour trying to strip it all off, and here's where I'm at. Most of the gasket is gone, just some goop left. Is that good enough, or do I risk running crap through the engine? You can see a little ring around the bottom of the adapter, but I can't manage to scrape it off. Basically I'm paranoid that when I start the truck it will get zero oil pressure and I'll be screwed.
OK, I'm in the middle of this conversion and I've managed to get every thing out. I'm at the point where I'm going to install the adapter into the block, but when removing the old adapter, it looks like there was a bunch of the gasket still stuck to the block side.
You can see it here, but the picture is crappy:
I've spent the better part of the last hour trying to strip it all off, and here's where I'm at. Most of the gasket is gone, just some goop left. Is that good enough, or do I risk running crap through the engine? You can see a little ring around the bottom of the adapter, but I can't manage to scrape it off. Basically I'm paranoid that when I start the truck it will get zero oil pressure and I'll be screwed.
Black Knight
I Glow Therefore I am
Re: Converting to an "On-The-Block" Oil Filter
That's cleaner than I did both of mine and they never had an issue, run it!
That's cleaner than I did both of mine and they never had an issue, run it!
canadian
sy in progress
Re: Converting to an "On-The-Block" Oil Filter
OK, perfect. I actually went back out there and scraped some more crap off of it, so I'm fairly confident in my work. I think I may run a batch of crap 10w30 oil through for a while and then change it for 2 reasons:
1) If there is a leak of some sort, I won't be wasting decent oil.
2) I just did a bottle of top end cleaner in the truck and figure it can't hurt to try and get more crap out.
Thanks for the replies. I have to say that this is more of a pain in the ass than putting solid motor mounts in with the engine in the truck.
OK, perfect. I actually went back out there and scraped some more crap off of it, so I'm fairly confident in my work. I think I may run a batch of crap 10w30 oil through for a while and then change it for 2 reasons:
1) If there is a leak of some sort, I won't be wasting decent oil.
2) I just did a bottle of top end cleaner in the truck and figure it can't hurt to try and get more crap out.
Thanks for the replies. I have to say that this is more of a pain in the ass than putting solid motor mounts in with the engine in the truck.
canadian
sy in progress
Re: Converting to an "On-The-Block" Oil Filter
OK, just screwed the adapter in the block and will be testing for leaks tomorrow. Last few questions, which were prompted by this post about capacity, and this post about filling the holes in the radiator.
1) Capacity is reduced 1/2 quart, so start with 4 quarts and see how it goes. It would be nice not to have to 1/2 quart sitting on the shelf between changes.
2) Is it necessary to plug the holes in the radiator where the lines attached? There shouldn't be any coolant coming out, I'm assuming just old oil.
OK, just screwed the adapter in the block and will be testing for leaks tomorrow. Last few questions, which were prompted by this post about capacity, and this post about filling the holes in the radiator.
1) Capacity is reduced 1/2 quart, so start with 4 quarts and see how it goes. It would be nice not to have to 1/2 quart sitting on the shelf between changes.
2) Is it necessary to plug the holes in the radiator where the lines attached? There shouldn't be any coolant coming out, I'm assuming just old oil.
IpHoOnDyou
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Re: Converting to an "On-The-Block" Oil Filter
Did you put a little blue thread loc on the end so the fitting does not come out every oil change? If you didnt you might wana do that....hint....hint. As for the holes in the rad, who cares just leave emm open, it wont due the truck any harm.
Did you put a little blue thread loc on the end so the fitting does not come out every oil change? If you didnt you might wana do that....hint....hint. As for the holes in the rad, who cares just leave emm open, it wont due the truck any harm.
canadian
sy in progress
Re: Converting to an "On-The-Block" Oil Filter
Yes, added blue Permatex thread locker as per DaveP. Thanks for looking out for me!
Yes, added blue Permatex thread locker as per DaveP. Thanks for looking out for me!